[meteorite-list] December 20, 2008 falls

From: Jeff Kuyken <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:36:58 +1000
Message-ID: <5463BC843BA041D8965C918BA85BA6B5_at_JeffPC>

I always liked the Thuathe and Kilabo story... they are both large falls
that fell on the same continent just several hours apart!!!

Thuathe: http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/april2003.html
Kilabo : http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/july2006.html

A perfect example of Sterling's point below really... the two would be lost
in the statisitcs for the decade or century... but on a daily or weekly
scale they would most certainly 'cluster'.

Cheers,

Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Meteorites USA" <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
To: "Greg Catterton" <star_wars_collector at yahoo.com>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] December 20, 2008 falls


> Hi Greg,
>
> They fell a month apart...
>
> Buzzard Coulee (H4), S2, W0 Fall Date: Nov 20th
> http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=48654
>
> Tamdakht (H5), S3, W0 Fall Date: Dec 20th
> http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/index.php?code=48691
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
>
> Greg Catterton wrote:
>> Buzzard Coulee and Tamdakht. Same day falls of large meteorites bith very
>> close in type. Has anyone looked into if these falls are somehow related
>> to the same object? I am thinking they are from the same place/area in
>> space.
>> I find it strange that both fell the same day and are so close in type.
>>
>> Greg C.
>>
>> --- On Tue, 5/26/09, Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Meteors & Meteorites
>>> To: "Meteorites USA" <eric at meteoritesusa.com>,
>>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 3:52 PM
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> These are random events. And random may be
>>> statistically defined as "one every 2.37 days" (or
>>> whatever), but they don't happen on a 2.37-day
>>> schedule.
>>>
>>> The first thing you notice when you plot "random"
>>> events is that they seem to "cluster." I say "seem"
>>> because humans are very sensitively primed to "see"
>>> patterns and potential trends in the events of the
>>> world.
>>>
>>> Frequencies go up; frequencies go down; it's random.
>>> That's what random means. Every event is completely
>>> unpredictable. Yet, given a large number of events
>>> and a long enough period of time, the "completely
>>> unpredictable" is "completely predictable," in the
>>> miracle of statistical mechanics. Watch a large group
>>> of randomly decaying uranium atoms draw a near-
>>> perfect mathematical curve of declining activity.
>>>
>>> The Universe likes to have it both ways. In contrast
>>> to what Einstein thought, God does roll the dice but,
>>> at the same time, the game is totally rigged.
>>>
>>> Or is it?
>>>
>>> The only valid rule about seeing fireballs and meteors
>>> is this: they may fall or they may not fall, but if you're
>>> not looking, you won't see them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sterling K. Webb
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meteorites USA"
>>> <eric at meteoritesusa.com>
>>> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 2:13 PM
>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs Meteors &
>>> Meteorites
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> The sky has been really quiet lately. Believe me, I'm
>>>>
>>> watching...
>>>
>>>> I've been rather disappointed that there has been no
>>>>
>>> big meteors reported lately. So I was slightly curious when
>>> I ran across this little blurb hoping it was something. Then
>>> after reading the report... Well, let's just say that not
>>> all fireballs are meteors.
>>>
>>>> http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Mysterious-Lights-Near-Lebanon-Explained/04cbRHZAF0Cf_DQsy8_iXw.cspx
>>>>
>>>> Skydiving anyone...?
>>>>
>>>> On a side note, I'd like to ask some more questions.
>>>>
>>> We've all witnessed and are very aware of the increased
>>> number of "witnessed" meteor events over this past year.
>>> Particularly the last 6 months or so. We're also very aware
>>> of all the new falls, especially those two newest meteorite
>>> falls right here in the United States and Canada. Not to
>>> mention the probable fall north of Merced, the Flagstaff
>>> fireball, Augusta, and another near Ontario Canada.
>>>
>>>> I've asked this question before and received mixed
>>>>
>>> replies with no definitive answers. My question still
>>> stands.
>>>
>>>> Can anyone seriously say definitively that all the
>>>>
>>> recent meteor fireballs and meteorite dropping fireball
>>> activity is NORMAL and simply attributed to increased
>>> awareness?
>>>
>>>> The increased awareness supposedly explains the
>>>>
>>> increased number of fireball sightings. This seems likely
>>> but it is NOT the case. Look at the Meteorite Men TV show as
>>> a perfect example of mainstream awareness. A national
>>> primetime program that was broadcast to millions of homes
>>> across this nation via the Science Channel. This would lead
>>> someone to believe logically that perhaps there would be an
>>> increased awareness one could attribute directly to this
>>> main stream broadcast. There was... But this increased
>>> awareness is not of meteors, but of meteorites.
>>>
>>>> There has actually been decrease in reports of large
>>>>
>>> meteor fireballs over the last month. There is a big
>>> increase in news related directly to meteorites, but NOT
>>> meteors or fireballs!
>>>
>>>> Even with more media attention on "meteorites" over
>>>>
>>> the last month, I suspect that the reason there has been
>>> decreased fireball sightings, is simply because there have
>>> been less fireballs to see. They' are just not falling at
>>> the rate they were a month or two ago.
>>>
>>>> Can someone explain why? Am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> -- Regards,
>>>> Eric Wichman
>>>> Meteorites USA
>>>> http://www.meteoritesusa.com
>>>> 904-236-5394
>>>>
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