[meteorite-list] Angrite or not?

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:29:42 -0500
Message-ID: <e51421550905100929l78560a4cmb4fabf52bde43152_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Doug, Norbert, and List,

I am schooled again. Thanks for that link Doug. It does resemble the
specimen in the auction link provided. I saw the Hupe card, but I
also noticed that the specimen is not in the original Hupe gemjar or
stapled ziploc bag. Typically (Adam and/or Greg can correct me here
if I am wrong), the Hupe collection small micro specimens come in a 1"
gemjar with a small circular, colored label on the lid. This gemjar
is then placed in a small ziploc bag which is stapled to the specimen
card. I own many micros like this and I have a habit of taking them
out of the 1" Hupe-supplied gemjars and putting them into 1.25"
gemjars which I have standardized into my collection. I keep the Hupe
specimen cards in my file. So, if I were to resell a specimen such as
the one on eBay I originally posted about, it might raise the same red
flags in a potential buyer's mind - yes there is a Hupe card shown,
but it's not in the original Hupe "packaging" so the card is less
relevant and dependant on provenance and/or the reputation of the
seller.

I don't put a ton of stock into memberships or credentials, but I do
feel more assured (as a buyer) if I see that the seller is a member of
the Meteoritical Society or IMCA - or, if they are a familiar face on
the market. So I was a little weary of this listing when I saw it and
I wanted some input from the veterans of the list. It seems the
specimen is likely genuine based on photo comparisons - it's larger
and has more aesthetic features (a vein?) than my old NWA 2999 micro.
In my mind, I had erroneously assumed that angrite had a texture more
in line with friability and that it wouldn't resemble the specimen
shown in the auction photos - or in most of the photos I had seen.

Even though I'd like to acquire another angrite specimen for my
cabinet (I currently don't have that type represented amongst my 43
types), I will pass on this one. I need to cool my spending jets
anyway before the wife kills me. ;)

Thanks for straightening me out (again) and best regards to the list,

MikeG



On 5/10/09, Mexicodoug <mexicodoug at aim.com> wrote:
> Mike, Looking more angritish now?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120397007921
>
> Best wishes,
> Doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike at gmail.com>
> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:22 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Angrite or not?
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
> I've seen this one on eBay for 3 consecutive weeks now. First, it was
> listed for hundreds of dollars BIN, but that original listing was
> apparently deleted or removed because it cannot be found in the
> completed listings search. Last week, the item was listed with a $150
> BIN and a reserve - it received bids, but closed without the reserve
> being met or the BIN being used. Now, the same specimen is again
> listed, this time for a fraction of the original listing price and
> half of last week's BIN price.
>
> Current listing -
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150344532805
>
> Previous listing -
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150343730391
>
> Such a series of listings would raise some red flags under most
> circumstances - it means either the seller is desperate for money and
> wants to keep relisting it until someone bites, or the item itself is
> questionable.
>
> Another red flag - and maybe I am wrong on this one - but the photo
> doesn't *look* like angrite to me. I've owned a micromount of NWA
> 2999 previously and my piece had excellent provenance - it didn't look
> anything like this specimen on eBay. Secondly, it doesn't resemble
> any photos of angrite commonly seen. So, is this piece angrite or
> not? Does anyone know the seller? I have no idea who the seller
> is, and my apologies if the piece is legit.
>
> Just curious about what's going on here...
>
> MikeG
>
>
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Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
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