[meteorite-list] Anyone remember this?

From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritemike_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:25:09 -0500
Message-ID: <e51421550905080925y6b0461fco1532fac35525c96f_at_mail.gmail.com>

Good points Steve. A little experience in the media production arena
sheds new light of reason on the debate. :)

I just don't understand how any "expert" could be fooled by that
object in the first place. It does have a passing resemblance to the
so-called "shattered crystals" of Campo sold on the market, but such
pieces don't fall from the sky that way - they are created by man
using a process. If that object had been posted on eBay for sale, it
would have raised red flags to every person who looks at it - degreed
or not. If I was that show's "expert" who proclaimed it to be
meteoritic, I'd want to forget the entire episode too. ;)

Good luck with the debut Sunday. :)

MikeG




On 5/8/09, MeteorHntr at aol.com <MeteorHntr at aol.com> wrote:
> It really is a tough situation. Sounds like the producer didn't do their
> job ahead of time.
>
> But in their shoes, what should they do they do? They brought the
> scientist in to talk about the science, and probably brought Darryl in to
> talk
> about how much it might be worth on the collector market. As Darryl is
> promoted to be an expert in aesthetic irons, this thing the local expert
> told
> them was an iron meteorite, and with Darryl being from the big city, I bet
> they thought it would round off their show nicely...that is until he threw
> the
> monkey wrench into their (not so) well laid plans.
>
> We would all agree the BEST solution would be that ALL people with nice
> degrees would have their facts straight and know what they are talking
> about
> when asked.
>
> I am sure, especially on the radio, they have to deal with dozens of crack
> pots every day, from people playing pranks by impersonating other people,
> to people that don't know what they are talking about, to people that
> really are crazy.
>
> In a second or two they have to decide, do we embarrass our local hometown
> expert that is putting his reputation on the line by giving the
> non-degreed out of town commercial meteorite dealer more air time, or
> separate the
> two? Then, if cutting off one of the two, the decision needs to be made
> which one gets hung up on?
>
> A good producer will know every answer you will give to every question
> that will be posed ahead of time, because that producer will have asked the
> guests those questions ahead of time off the air. Much easier on TV than
> on
> the radio, but still, that is how it is supposed to be done. In any case,
> Darryl's answer didn't fit with what they thought it should be and I am
> sure they went into panic mode.
>
> If they had asked Darryl about this before the show went live, they would
> have known his stance, and could have avoided the question with the answer
> they didn't like, or they could have uninvited Darryl before the interview
> started to avoid the conflict.
>
> Obviously, TV shows have bigger budgets to pay people to do a better job
> of such screening, and mess ups on TV are a bit more embarrassing than on
> the
> radio, so "flushing" a interviewee, especially if it is a call in, is far
> easier than investing too much into the pre-show planning.
>
> Besides, lots of these radio talk shows are doing what they do for humor,
> and they just roll from one topic to the next trying to keep the drivers
> awake on the conveyor belt commute into work in the morning.
>
> It would be safe to say probably the only two people that even remember
> anything about the interview would be Darryl and the other "expert and
> degreed" guest, and I am sure the later would like to forget about it, as I
> am
> sure he is quite embarrassed about getting the diagnosis wrong. The person
> doing the interview probably doesn't even remember it. And sadly, probably
> no one listening on the radio driving to work that morning even remembers
> it.
>
> Radios are in business to sell ads and make money. They need to keep
> listeners to stay tuned between commercials. For them, it is all filler.
> Who
> cares if it is factually correct or not.
>
> Steve Arnold
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/8/2009 10:27:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> GeoZay at aol.com writes:
>>>Amateur scientists and aspiring scientists of all stripes have always
> faced this bias from "authority". At least Fox didn't give Darryl the
> "Galileo Treatment". ;)<<
>
> It was unfortunate that Darryl had this happen to him, but on the other
> side of the coin, where it applies to matters of science, I'd rather have
> more faith in those with degrees in the fields under discussion. Maybe
> there
> would be more folks leaning towards Evolution than Creationism for
> example...or Less UFO sightings with ET alien overtones. Then again it
> takes a
> person or two with science degrees to voice their off the wall authority
> to
> wrongly direct folks towards erroneous beliefs.
> GeoZay
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