[meteorite-list] Recovered (US) falls

From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:27:22 -0700
Message-ID: <20090505192722.IGC7I.160424.imail_at_fed1rmwml42>

Mike,
That sounds like a lofty goal! Once back in around 1990ish.? there was a huge fireball that was seen by dozens from Tucson. it fell north from our view and from viewers in Phoenix it was seen to fall south. In casa Grande which is between Tucson and Phoenix it was seen to fall slightly west. This thing was pin pointed from three directions. David Kring put together a recovery team and they went out to get it. They never did find it. Someday someone is going to find a meteorite in the general vicinity and they will be able to claim it was a witnessed fall. But, It has been years so I fail to see the significance of a fall vs a find. Unless it is such rare material that it becomes the name sake for the type I really could not care less wether a fall or a find. And how will they even know without just guessing that that is the one they all saw anyway. How do they ever know with certainty? . I don't think they got a licence plate number while it fell. To me it makes no difference where it was found either. I
 collect based on Rarity and or scientific importance only. But I'm glad some people collect only falls because I sell Carancas. A true fall by any definition. Plus it has all of the other bells and whistles too. Take care.
Carl Esparza
IMCA 5829

---- Mike Miller <meteoritefinder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Carl the reason I am asking is because we are doing some research
> that is related to fire balls and we have 2 distinct types of fire
> balls we are looking into. Those that produced meteorites that have
> been found and those that have not. Plus I am a meteorite hunter and I
> never new there were so many witnessed finds. : ) No offense taken.
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:19 PM, <cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:
> > Mike,
> > What does it matter if it is a fall . Yes, I've read all of the debate about witnessed falls but aren't most of them just finds as well? Because unless it hits you on the head you still have to find it. Don't you? So, aren't all falls just glorified (lucky) ?finds? And is there really a difference? When you think about it there must be really very few falls that did not also have to be ?found. And so; if you do have to look for the fall how is it not a find? Just a question no offence intended. Thanks
> > Carl
> >
> > ---- Mike Miller <meteoritefinder at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Wow! Ok was I clear? I was looking for witnessed falls that were later
> >> recovered.
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM, ?<bernd.pauli at paulinet.de> wrote:
> >> > Hello Mike and List,
> >> >
> >> > Hello everyone I have only been into meteorites for six years or so
> >> > now and I know about Park Forest IL and Portales Valley NM. But
> >> > were here any other recovered falls in the past 10 or 15 years in the
> >> > continental US? ?Of course I also know about Ash Creek TX. Thanks
> >> > for your input.
> >> >
> >> > Let's start with the famous Lost City 1970 chondrite:
> >> >
> >> > Park Forest-L5-Illinois-2003-Mar 26
> >> > Monahans-H5-Texas-1998-Mar 22
> >> > Elbert-LL6-Colorado-1998-Jan 11
> >> > Portales Valley-H6-New Mexico-1998-Jun 13
> >> > Worden-L5-Michigan-1997-Sep 01
> >> > Coleman-L6-Michigan-1994-Oct 20
> >> > Peekskill-H6-New York-1992-Oct 09
> >> > Noblesville-H4-Indiana-1991-Aug 31
> >> > Burnwell-H-Kentucky-1990-Sep 04
> >> > Claxton-L6-Georgia-1984-Dec 10
> >> > Maryville-L6-Tennessee-1983-Jan 28
> >> > Wethersfield-L6-Connecticut-1982-Nov 08
> >> > Salem-L6-Oregon-1981-May 13
> >> > Richland Springs-Texas-1980-Sep 20
> >> > Louisville-L6-Kentucky-1977-Jan 31
> >> > Stratford-L6-Connecticut-1974-May 27
> >> > Canon City-H6-Colorado-1973-Oct 27
> >> > San Juan Capistrano-H6-California-1973-Mar 15
> >> > Wethersfield-L6-Connecticut-1971-Apr 08
> >> > Lost City-H5-Oklahoma-1970-Jan 03
> >> >
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> >
> >> > Bernd
> >> >
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