[meteorite-list] Carl Esparza 180 degree reversal

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <218799.35108.qm_at_web110602.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

My name is Michael.
I did not attack Bob I called you out, not an attack, a point of fact. Please point out where I did said anything bad about Bob? You are ignoring the questions I asked and making crap up now.

Michael blood invented nothing, I did not know that Blood appeared and invented Hammers, they have been falling forever. He sells them, specializes in charging hefty prices for meteorites that hit things, so I would think that it is in his interest to label everything as a hammer.

I do not have to accept Michael Blood's opinion, nor does he have to accept mine. Last time I checked, I do not work for Michael Blood and he leads no committee. You did not answer why you demanded we call these things hammers, then admit that you don't buy into it. That was my question.

You did not beat me anywhere, you have never been on a meteorite chase. You did not go to Carancas, so you were not treated like a king or anything else. Please clarify that. Bob went with some of your friends, so when you say "we" you really mean "they", spent a couple hours there, and left. I sat at Bob's house a couple of days later and got the whole story. I tried to do real work there and it went to crap. Those like you who never get into the dirt or go to dangerous places need not lecture me like some kind of armchair warrior (see, now I can call you names too).

Now, stop calling me names, and I will do the same.

Michael Farmer

--- On Wed, 3/18/09, cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:

> From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carl Esparza 180 degree reversal
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 8:06 PM
> Farmer, This seems to be your big
> problem. You just cannot have a conversation about anything
> without taking it personal and flying off the handle..?
> We have been discussing Hammers and most of the time I
> referred to Blood for a ruling. That is all. Blood invented
> the thing so I felt he should argue it. We all have our
> opinion but Blood is the final word on this, Not you! and
> not Me! either! You are so politically incorrect the way you
> talk with people I cannot help but assume that you must have
> some serious mental illness. You are not a normal person.
> You treat people like crap. Surely you can see that. Why
> would anybody treat so many people in such a way that it
> causes wars. We have all seen Wars between you and dozens of
> people throughoout the years and now me. I really just don't
> get it. Just last week I sent you a private? email of
> admiration for an act of kindness you committed.? I buy
> from you all the time and you show thanks by attacking me
> and Bob. You have never gotten over the fact that we beat
> you to Peru. Yes, we were there and we did not get
> threatened or iinterrogated or have to watch people urinate
> in the crater. The people there treated us like royalty.
> They fed? us and showed us a great time. I think in
> fact that you are always the only one whom ever seems to get
> into these situations. I think you need to step back and
> just take your med's and relax And maybe start treating
> people with a little respect. I did offer to buy the dam
> hammer but it is already sold. Darn. I want nothing from
> you. I guess your team isn't the team for me. Next time
> please take this off list and I will do the same. Please
> forgive Haag. I have. Carl
>
> ---- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > "Eric, I don't know what you agree with but I sell
> with 100% honesty. I have no west to sell. I do not see how
> it serves Mike Farmer to rant like this. I am (was) a good
> customer of his. I have many meteorites from him. I think he
> must be crazy. Like you said . you are not stupid. You are
> not going to buy into this Hammer crap. Good for you. I
> don't either. I collect based on material. I don't even need
> another ordinary chondrite. from West or East or places
> between.
> > Carl Esparza
> > IMCA 5829"
> >
> >
> > Carl, I did not call you names, but said that
> pretending every stone that landed in some scraped dirt
> touched by mankind equaled a hammer was nonsense. When you
> did not like what I said, you called me names. You are the
> one who needs to grow up. I am not crazy, though this topic
> might drive me to it with the 100 emails gushing in. the
> fact that you have bought from me does not mean I can not
> call you out when I see a sales tactic that I find
> reprehensable.
> >
> > Now you reverse course and pretend that you also do
> not buy into this "hammer" crap? Wow, you sent a barrage of
> emails just hours ago making every case for why these things
> would be hammer meteorites. Now you say you don't buy it.
> Please explain the 180 degree reversal.
> > Michael Farmer
> >
> >?
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Received on Wed 18 Mar 2009 10:20:52 PM PDT