[meteorite-list] Open Letter to Brad Andes of Meteor CraterEnterprises

From: Mark Langenfeld <mlangen_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:20:06 -0500
Message-ID: <F5499713802045EFABEE12CE6F19FB62_at_D5KDJZ51>

No sweat, Michael. Someone (wiser than me) once said: the measure of a man
is not how many mistakes he makes, but how many he repeats.

Time to put this behind you (and us).

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gilmer" <michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com>
To: "Mark Langenfeld" <mlangen at execpc.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Open Letter to Brad Andes of Meteor
CraterEnterprises


>
> Hi Mark and list,
>
> You and I both are glad for that. I only wish my diatribe could
> be permanently erased from the record. But, thanks to Google Cache,
> it will live on forever, unfortunately. Even if Art could go in
> and delete the message, it will still be cached by Google.
>
> So, for the record (and for Google) - my words were my words, and
> not those of the collector community at large. If anyone wants
> to draw conclusions based on what I said, then please draw those
> conclusions against me and not the collector community as a whole.
>
> There are lots of classy people in the meteorite world with more
> self-control than I - those people should not have to suffer
> the consequences due to the rash words of a meteorite pariah.
>
> And I also apologize for CC'ing Mark's private reply to me, to the
> list. That was an accident and a violation of netiquette.
>
> Best regards,
>
> MikeG
>
>
> .........................................................
> Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
> Member of the Meteoritical Society.
> Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
> Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
> ..........................................................
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Mark Langenfeld <mlangen at execpc.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Mark Langenfeld <mlangen at execpc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Open Letter to Brad Andes of Meteor
>> CraterEnterprises
>> To: michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:52 AM
>> I was suffering from a coffee shortage, too, and just now
>> noticed that
>> Michael's email went to the list and not directly to
>> Mr. Andes, as well.
>> Guess I'm just as glad of that.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> ---- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Gilmer"
>> <michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Mark Langenfeld" <mlangen at execpc.com>
>> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Open Letter to Brad Andes of
>> Meteor
>> CraterEnterprises
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Hi listees and Mr. Andes -
>> >
>> > I have to agree with Mark here. Mr. Andes words
>> caught me bright
>> > and early in the morning before my coffee kicked in,
>> and I was
>> > feeling pissy. I really should put a lock on my
>> keyboard early in
>> > the morning.
>> >
>> > I apologize to the list and to Mr. Andes for my harsh
>> choice of
>> > words. I stand by the underlying message and
>> sentiment of my
>> > letter, but I regret my choice of harsh words. In
>> hindsight, I
>> > could have expressed my displeasure in a more tasteful
>> way.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > MikeG
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> .........................................................
>> > Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
>> > Member of the Meteoritical Society.
>> > Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
>> > Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and
>> http://www.glassthrower.com
>> >
>> ..........................................................
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Mark Langenfeld
>> <mlangen at execpc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: Mark Langenfeld <mlangen at execpc.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Open Letter to Brad
>> Andes of Meteor
>> >> CraterEnterprises
>> >> To: michael_w_gilmer at yahoo.com
>> >> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 9:57 AM
>> >> Michael:
>> >>
>> >> I can tell you feel strongly about this, and I
>> fully
>> >> understand why. But,
>> >> your overwrought diatribe does collectors no more
>> favors
>> >> than did Mr. Andes
>> >> poorly chosen words. In fact, I think it stands
>> to make
>> >> things even worse.
>> >>
>> >> I am very sorry you chose to send it.
>> >>
>> >> Not necessarily "more sophisticated,"
>> but
>> >> cringing nonetheless ...
>> >>
>> >> Mark Langenfeld
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Received on Thu 12 Mar 2009 02:20:06 PM PDT