[meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl Esparza

From: Pete Shugar <pshugar_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:53:18 -0500
Message-ID: <0326C94243BA4E548C041FA863560976_at_laptop>

I'm sorry bur the comment about "Boys" was so far out of line that is is
somewhere close to the former planet Pluto.
Having had one former Ebayer use a similar line on me and all the grief it
took to get the feedback removed (over 2 weeks) I know what damage can be
caused in the haste to call people names. It may never be undone.
Even the mere allusion of calling a person such as this is/can be very
damaging.
Please limit it to facts and also off list as we are all getting tired of
the tirade.
Pete

----- Original Message -----
From: <cdtucson at cox.net>
To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; <cynapse at charter.net>; "Michael
Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter Carl
Esparza


> Okay Mike, Sorry list hopefully just one final post on this topic. I am
> going to answer your accusations in order that you made them.
> --
>> so you found me yesterday, you found the new fall strewn field, and you
>> found a new meteorite all from your car. Man, you are good. Amazing that
>> knowing where I was hunting you are today at home on the computer and not
>> picking up new meteorites.
>> Kinda makes you wonder.
> You know me. I am no spring chicken. Yesterday kicked my butt. I am sore
> today. This searching is hard work at 100 plus degrees but I am not done
> looking yet. No not all from my car.
>> You still didn't tell the list that you were not in Carancas.
> My team beat you to Carancas and we sent Bob Haag ahead of you as well.
> This is the reason you don't like me but the truth be told. Had Bob
> declined my offer , you were the next name on my list to call. I wish Bob
> had said no because you are relentless and I would just as soon not be on
> your bad side. I did not have to go to Carancas because I sent Bob.
> Everyone who has read my ebay listing already knows this.
>> How many new Arizona meteorites is this for you now, besides the ones
>> from a Moroccans Tucson show table, um I mean your Arivaca ranch?
> Yes, I have a ranch in Arivaca. Yes I have found a few meteorites
> throughout Southern AZ. What have you to do with this and why are you
> accusing me of buying them from Moroccans. Is this something you do or
> what??? All of these were found prior to 2001 and have been in their
> possession since then and 8 years later they are being classified. I hate
> that it has taken this long. They used to be worth a lot more money then
> they are now. Mike you simply cannot go around saying stuff like this
> without proof. It just makes you look even stupider than you are. How
> would you like it if I told this list that you solicit the services of
> young boys? Without proof that would be silly wouldn't it? So, please
> stick to facts here. Or this could get real ugly.
> And finally Yes I found another yesterday. If you would get out and look
> you too would find them. You don't always have to wait until somebody
> tells you where to look. They are everywhere.
> Later.
>
>
>
> Carl or Debbie Esparza
> IMCA 5829
> Meteoritemax
>
>
> ---- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good grief,
>> so you found me yesterday, you found the new fall strewnfield, and you
>> found a new meteorite all from your car. Man, you are good. Amazing that
>> knowing where I was hunting you are today at home on the computer and not
>> picking up new meteorites.
>> Kinda makes you wonder.
>> You still didn't tell the list that you were not in Carancas.
>> How many new Arizona meteorites is this for you now, besides the ones
>> from a Moroccans Tucson show table, um I mean your Arivaca ranch?
>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 7/17/09, cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > From: cdtucson at cox.net <cdtucson at cox.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pitiful excuse for a meteorite hunter
>> > Carl Esparza
>> > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com, cynapse at charter.net
>> > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 2:21 PM
>> > Darren, Thanks for that. We all need
>> > a good laugh once in a while. You are too funny.
>> > Yesterday, while SUV hunting I did find a possible meteorite
>> > from another fall. More on that later.
>> > --
>> > Carl or Debbie Esparza
>> > IMCA 5829
>> > Meteoritemax
>> >
>> >
>> > ---- Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:04:19 +0100, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Mike, I'm unsure what he's hunting, meteorites or
>> > vehicles...might want to
>> > > >look into lowjack or something.
>> > > >
>> > > >Never can tell, eh?
>> > >
>> > > He's a member of the IMCA-- Is Mike's Car Around?
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