[meteorite-list] fake you tube email

From: Brian Cox <searchingforfun_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:22:40 -0600
Message-ID: <6C248DAB29C3439790A6C63774187FA6_at_user6e6e286533>

Hi Aziz,

thanks for letting me know. I just got it before I read the post here. It's
from one of the list members and I just emailed him to ask if he really sent
it. I'm wondering if it's either someone getting our emails from the
Meteorite list or facebook. It said just what yours said:
xxxxxxxxxxxxx thinks you will really like this YOuTube video. Check it out
in blue and I didn't click on it.

Thanks,

Brian
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> 1. Re: fireball over Southern AZ (Mark Bowling)
> 2. Duking it out at the AGU (E.P. Grondine)
> 3. Grimsby Classified H5 (Mike Bandli)
> 4. Paris, France CM Meteorite (Mike Bandli)
> 5. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Linton Rohr)
> 6. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Ted Bunch)
> 7. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Mike Bandli)
> 8. Fall in Canada in 1984-85 near Devon, AB? (Greg Stanley)
> 9. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Phil Morgan)
> 10. Re: Grimsby Classified H5 (Linton Rohr)
> 11. Celebrated Moon Rocks (Ron Baalke)
> 12. Re: Paris, France CM Meteorite (Mike Bandli)
> 13. be carful (Abdelaziz Alhyane)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:02:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mark Bowling <minador at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over Southern AZ
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Hey Larry,
> I once moved from Tucson to Elko, till I found out that the alternate
> spelling of Elko was COLD...
>
> I'll get it reported as Gracie suggested. I'm hoping that some shoppers
> saw it. The malls and stores are quite active at that time.
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 12/22/09, lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu <lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> From: lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu <lebofsky at lpl.arizona.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] fireball over Southern AZ
>> To: "Mark Bowling" <minador at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 9:24 AM
>> Saw nothing from Tucson, but have not
>> spent much time outside since it has
>> been cloudy and (relatively) cold (at least for those of us
>> in Tucson, and
>> waiting to get all of the responses from places that are
>> really cold).
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > My cousin sent me a message in Facebook this morning
>> (see below).? Has
>> > anybody else seen this or any reported
>> sightings?? Surely there were a lot
>> > of folks out shopping or enjoying the evening...
>> >
>> > Mark B.
>> > Vail, AZ
>> >
>> >
>> > "the other night about 6pm heading back to tucson i
>> was in eloy and saw a
>> > falling star, being cloudy it made the clouds glow for
>> a bit and the tail
>> > sparkled. it had to land near the tortillitas or in
>> catalina but it made a
>> > boom sound i had my window down. it was the coolest i
>> ever seen and i seen
>> > many out on the road."
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:13:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Duking it out at the AGU
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Hi -
>
> While the banks of a river that floods are not a good place to get
> reliably dated mega-fauna DNA samples:
>
> http://www.canada.com/technology/MAMMOTH+DISCOVERY/2340164/story.html
>
> There is little doubt that man was hunting mega-fauna when he arrived in
> the Americas, say about 45,000 BCE. And there can be little doubt that
> Clovis technology greatly increased the efficiency of that hunting.
>
> We're still left with the problem of sudden quarry abandonment, and a
> sudden drop in mega-fauna populations. Also with the problem of the causes
> of some of the First Peoples' memories of comet impact.
>
> The question of the effects of any impacts on the draining of Lake Agassiz
> have not been examined yet.
>
> The lack of funding for those researching this is appaling.
>
> Anyone who would like a copy of the cast of the Trempealeau Petroglyph can
> contact me off list. While it appears to show cometary impact,
> unfortunately since the site was lost we do not know if it was from the YD
> impacts, or the Rio Cuarto impacts, or another set of impacts.
>
> E.P. Grondine
> Man and Impact in the Americas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:41:52 -0800
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID: <09C9F5AF2A8A45968FDF33DAFE8B2DBF at Bandli1>
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>
> It is official:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA?#5765
> -----------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:50:50 -0800
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
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> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge
>
> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
> with no locality.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA?#5765
> -----------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:00:02 -0800
> From: "Linton Rohr" <lintonius at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
> To: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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>
> Cool. Thanks Mike.
> So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass"
> and
> TKW to be equivalent).
> One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
> the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit
> requirements?
> ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit
> to
> be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually?
> It's
> only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
> Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
> Linton
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
>
> It is official:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA #5765
> -----------------------------------
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:23:58 -0700
> From: Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
> To: Mike Bandli <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>,
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID: <C75678EE.FD46%tbear1 at cableone.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
> desert, but not LA.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
> On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge
>>
>> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
>> with no locality.
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Mike Bandli
>> Historic Meteorites
>> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
>> IMCA?#5765
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:29:41 -0800
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
> To: "'Linton Rohr'" <lintonius at earthlink.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID: <777E76092A2D444193FB01559B7A68F5 at Bandli1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Linton,
>
> Though it lists Michael Farmer as the holder, all of the stones, including
> ours, are being held in Canada. No export permits will be applied for
> (that
> I know of). With the low total recovered weight, unprecedented recovery
> efforts, and it being the most documented fireball in history, we don't
> see
> any scenario of them ever leaving Canada. It is our hope that our stone
> eventually finds its way into a Canadian museum or institution.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA?#5765
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linton Rohr [mailto:lintonius at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:00 PM
> To: Mike Bandli
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
> Cool. Thanks Mike.
> So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass"
> and
> TKW to be equivalent).
> One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
> the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit
> requirements?
> ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit
> to
> be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually?
> It's
>
> only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
> Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
> Linton
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
>
> It is official:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA #5765
> -----------------------------------
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:30:35 -0800
> From: Greg Stanley <stanleygregr at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Fall in Canada in 1984-85 near Devon, AB?
> To: <lintonius at earthlink.net>, Mike <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID: <SNT117-W4459D46FDD33F534AF8F5D2810 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Hi List:
>
> Wow - that was fast, hope to see it at Tucson.
>
> I have a question regarding a Canadian meteorite fall that a friend of
> mine witnessed back in 1984 or 85.? It was during a cold evening about 20
> miles West of Devon, AB when he and a group of his friends noticed that
> suddenly it became as bright as day.? Then right above them a red/orange
> fireball (which sounded like a jet engine) flew eastward.? They watched it
> fly towards the horizon as pieced broke off.? The next day he read in the
> Edmonton Sun newspaper that the meteorite struck and damaged a car, I
> believe owned by a women.
>
> If anyone on the list in Canada or anyone knows what this fall could be, I
> would like to know.? I have researched it on the bulletin and the web and
> can't find it.? Being a hammer, I think it would be documented.
>
> Thanks... and happy holidays, and congratulations to Mike Farmer for his
> Grimsby find.
>
> Greg S.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> From: lintonius at earthlink.net
>> To: fuzzfoot at comcast.net
>> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:00:02 -0800
>> CC: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>>
>> Cool. Thanks Mike.
>> So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass"
>> and
>> TKW to be equivalent).
>> One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
>> the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit
>> requirements?
>> ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit
>> to
>> be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually?
>> It's
>> only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
>> Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
>> Linton
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Bandli"
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>>
>>
>> It is official:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>> Mike Bandli
>> Historic Meteorites
>> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
>> IMCA #5765
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:46:53 -0700
> From: Phil Morgan <roxfromspace at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
> To: Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well. But are there
> others that don't even have a home country?
>
> Phil
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>> Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
>> desert, but not LA.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge
>>>
>>> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
>>> with no locality.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Mike Bandli
>>> Historic Meteorites
>>> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
>>> IMCA?#5765
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:52:55 -0800
> From: "Linton Rohr" <lintonius at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
> To: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Message-ID: <CB34F1F7E38E44B1AEBB9D5DCC8F037F at D190TH71>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Ah. Thanks for the enlightenment, Mike. That's quite commendable.
> I would like to think more will be found, but the prospects don't look
> good,
> considering the effort that's already been made.
> Linton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> To: "'Linton Rohr'" <lintonius at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:29 PM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
>
> Hi Linton,
>
> Though it lists Michael Farmer as the holder, all of the stones, including
> ours, are being held in Canada. No export permits will be applied for
> (that
> I know of). With the low total recovered weight, unprecedented recovery
> efforts, and it being the most documented fireball in history, we don't
> see
> any scenario of them ever leaving Canada. It is our hope that our stone
> eventually finds its way into a Canadian museum or institution.
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA #5765
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linton Rohr [mailto:lintonius at earthlink.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:00 PM
> To: Mike Bandli
> Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
> Cool. Thanks Mike.
> So it's still a relatively low TKW, at 215g (I've always assumed "Mass"
> and
> TKW to be equivalent).
> One thing I don't understand, though. How can Michael Farmer be listed as
> the main mass holder already, with the Canadian export permit
> requirements?
> ( Not that I mind.) Has it been long enough already for an export permit
> to
> be issued? Or is the Met Bull just assuming that it will be eventually?
> It's
>
> only been a couple months. I'm just thinking of the export delay with
> Buzzard Coulee, which I'd love to see available in Tucson, by the way.
> Linton
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:41 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Grimsby Classified H5
>
>
> It is official:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yg8ny9g
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA #5765
> -----------------------------------
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:06:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: Ron Baalke <baalke at zagami.jpl.nasa.gov>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Celebrated Moon Rocks
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
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>
> http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/Dec09/Apollo-lunar-samples.html
>
> Celebrated Moon Rocks
> Planetary Science Research Discoveries
> December 21, 2009
>
> --- Overview and status of the Apollo lunar collection: A unique, but
> limited, resource of extraterrestrial material.
>
> Written by Linda M. V. Martel
> Hawaii Institute of Geophysics and Planetology
>
> "The Need for Lunar Samples and Simulants: Where Engineering and
> Science Meet" sums up one of the sessions attracting attention at the
> annual meeting of the Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG), held
> November 16-19, 2009 in Houston, Texas. Speakers addressed the question
> of how the Apollo lunar samples can be used to facilitate NASA's return
> to the Moon while preserving the collection for scientific
> investigation. Here is a summary of the LEAG presentations of Dr. Gary
> Lofgren, Lunar Curator at the NASA Johnson Space Center in Houston,
> Texas, and Dr. Meenakshi (Mini) Wadhwa, Professor at Arizona State
> University and Chair of NASA's advisory committee called CAPTEM
> (Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial Materials).
> Lofgren gave a status report of the collection of rocks and regolith
> returned to Earth by the Apollo astronauts from six different landing
> sites on the Moon in 1969-1972. Wadhwa explained the role of CAPTEM in
> lunar sample allocation.
>
> References:
>
> * Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG) Annual Meeting Agenda
>
> <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/leag2009/presentations/index.shtml>,
> November 16-19, 2009.
> * Lunar Sample Compendium <
> http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/compendium.cfm>.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Collection of Lunar Samples from Apollo Missions
>
> The six Apollo missions that landed astronauts on the Moon returned a
> collection of rock and soil samples weighing approximately 382 kilograms
> (842 pounds) and consisting of 2,196 separate samples. Today there are
> more than 110,000 individually numbered subsamples (split, chipped or
> sawed pieces) available to investigators for detailed studies. The
> collection also includes 16.5 meters (54 feet) of core samples pulled
> from the top of the lunar regolith. (The fine-grained, fragmental, loose
> material blanketing the Moon is most commonly referred to as soil but it
> has none of the organic sediment component as on Earth. The more precise
> term is regolith. The number of samples
> increased as the missions progressed, as shown in the table below. Click
> on the emblems for more information about the missions from NASA.
>
> Apollo Mission 11 12 14 15 16 17
> Total
> Number of samples: 58 69 227 370 731 741 2196
> Weight in kilograms: 21.8 34.3 42.3 77.3 95.7 110.5 381.7
>
> These missions, the astronauts, the thousands of people who worked to
> make the missions possible, and the lunar samples brought back to Earth
> were celebrated worldwide.
>
> Today NASA continues to take charge of the curation and allocation of
> the Apollo lunar samples. The specially-built Lunar Sample Laboratory
> Facility, 30 years old this year, is a class 10K clean room (no more
> than 10,000 particles 0.5-micron size per cubic foot of air inside the
> laboratory). It is housed in a special building at the Johnson Space
> Center in Houston, Texas. Workers wear clean coveralls, hats, gloves,
> and shoe covers to minimize contamination.
>
> Meticulous facilities and strict handling procedures ensure the
> continued scientific integrity of the Apollo lunar samples for the needs
> of the research and engineering communities today and into the future.
> About 70% of the total weight of Apollo lunar samples is located in the
> Lunar Sample Laboratory's pristine sample vault. "Pristine" lunar
> samples (those continuously in NASA custody since return from the Moon)
> are stored in multiple layers of packaging in cabinets organized by
> mission. They are handled in stainless-steel glove cabinets purged by
> high-purity nitrogen gas, which is relatively non-reactive, in an
> environment monitored continuously for oxygen and moisture contents to
> minimize degradation of the samples or chemical reaction with air.
>
> Approximately 8% of the total weight of the collection is stored in the
> returned sample vault. These are samples lent to authorized researchers
> and returned to NASA. They are re-inventoried as "returned" because
> these samples were exposed to air when they were located in the
> investigators' laboratories. The samples are individually bagged,
> tagged, and are made available again for other research projects when
> contamination is less of a concern.
>
> Another 13% of the total weight is stored in the Brooks Air Force Base
> remote storage facility, which was completed in 2002. This
> representative sampling of the collection is stored at the second
> location to ensure the entire collection would not be lost in the event
> of a major hurricane or other catastrophe at Johnson Space Center.
>
> The other 9% of the total weight of lunar samples is currently outside
> the custody of the Johnson Space Center. Some are on loan to scientists
> and educators for research and teaching projects; others samples are on
> loan to museums, planetariums, and public scientific expositions [see
> the list of international Lunar Sample Display Locations
> <http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/displays/displays.cfm>]; a small
> percentage has been destroyed during approved experimentation; and some
> pieces of Apollo 11 and Apollo 17 samples were given as official gift
> plaques to all the states of the United States, to Puerto Rico, and to
> 135 foreign nations. U.S. regulations prohibit private ownership of
> Apollo lunar samples.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lunar Sample Allocation
>
> The last container of lunar samples from the last Apollo mission was
> logged into the lunar laboratory on January 30, 1973. From their first
> arrival, the samples from the Apollo Missions have been under continuous
> investigation. They are, as you can imagine, highly sought after for
> scientific research in cosmochemistry, and for testing hypotheses of the
> origin of the Earth/Moon system, planetary formation, and solar system
> evolution. The renewed interest in robotic and human exploration of the
> Moon has spawned substantial interest in studying lunar materials among
> the engineering/resource utilization community. Their studies sometimes
> require lunar samples to validate development of tools and processes
> using simulants (soils made from Earth materials to mimic lunar
> properties). Because of the obviously limited supply of Apollo lunar
> samples, NASA has a robust allocation system that has been in place
> since the beginning of the collection. It distributes nearly 400 samples
> each year.
>
> Lunar Curator, Dr. Gary Lofgren, works with Dr. Meenakshi (Mini) Wadhwa
> and CAPTEM (Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial
> Materials), a NASA advisory committee, to meet the needs of scientists
> and engineers who wish to obtain the most appropriate materials from the
> collection for their studies. Requests are considered for both basic
> research in planetary science and for applied studies including lunar
> materials beneficiation, resource utilization, toxicity, or hazards
> assessment. NASA provides access to the Apollo rocks, soils, and
> regolith core samples for destructive and non-destructive analyses.
>
> The checklist for requestors of Apollo lunar samples looks something
> like this:
>
> 1. The investigator must demonstrate favorable peer review of
> proposed work involving lunar samples by (1) a formal research
> proposal approved for funding through a NASA program, or an
> equivalent scientific peer-review panel, within the past three
> years, or (2) peer-reviewed articles in professional journals that
> are pertinent to the specific sample request.
> 2. The investigator must submit a written request to the Lunar Sample
> Curator specifying the numbers, types, and quantities of lunar
> samples, and the planned investigations to be conducted on these.
> A resume is additionally required for new investigators.
>
> For planetary science studies, the request is submitted to the Lunar
> Sample Curator, Dr. Gary Lofgren, at NASA Johnson Space Center. For
> engineering/resource utilization studies, the request is submitted to
> the Lunar Simulant Curator, Dr. Carlton Allen, also at NASA Johnson
> Space Center, who verifies that all necessary tests with lunar simulants
> have been completed satisfactorily, and determines whether the request
> warrants use of lunar samples, in which case it is forwarded to the
> Lunar Sample Curator.
>
> The Lunar Sample Curator evaluates the submitted request and supporting
> materials, and makes a curatorial allocation if the request is from an
> investigator who has been approved previously for sample allocation by
> CAPTEM, and the request is for thin sections, "returned" lunar samples,
> or less than one gram of other lunar samples with no pristinity issues.
> The Curator otherwise forwards the request to CAPTEM for evaluation if
> the request is from a new investigator, and/or the request involves
> larger than one gram of material, or any samples with pristinity issues.
> Furthermore, with very few exceptions, no lunar sample will be allocated
> that reduces the remaining pristine sample below 50% by weight.
>
> The lunar sample requests forwarded to CAPTEM are evaluated by this
> standing committee. A positive recommendation by CAPTEM, followed by
> approval by NASA Headquarters, constitutes formal approval of the
> request. The Lunar Sample Curator prepares a Lunar Sample Loan Agreement
> (including a security plan) to be signed by the investigator. Finally,
> samples less than 10 grams are shipped within the U.S. by U.S.
> registered mail, outside the U.S. by U.S. diplomatic pouch mail to the
> American embassy nearest the investigator's location. Samples larger
> than 10 grams must be hand carried by the investigator or his/her
> representative.
>
>
> The Apollo lunar samples are a unique, but limited, resource of
> extraterrestrial rocks and regolith. Rest assured these treasured
> samples are in good hands. The planetary science community has a long
> heritage of developing sample-handling protocols and instrumentation for
> maximizing science while minimizing the amount of sample consumed. This
> approach is a good one and a necessary one for assuring that these lunar
> materials will be available for the ongoing testing of hypotheses, old
> and new, and development of new instruments, tools, and technologies as
> we plan and realize humanity's return to the Moon.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
>
> * Curation and Analysis Planning Team for Extraterrestrial Materials
> (CAPTEM) <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/captem/>.
> * Lunar Exploration Analysis Group (LEAG) Annual Meeting Agenda
>
> <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/leag2009/presentations/index.shtml>,
> November 16-19, 2009.
> * Lunar Petrographic Educational Thin Section Set <
> http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/letss/contents.cfm>.
> * Lunar Sample Atlas <http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/atlas/>.
> * Lunar Sample Compendium <
> http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/compendium.cfm>.
> * Moon Archive <../Archive/Archive-Moon.html> articles from
> Planetary Science Research Discoveries.
> * Rocks and Soils from the Moon
> <http://www-curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/index.cfm>, website from
> Astromaterials Curation, NASA Johnson Space Center.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:09:19 -0800
> From: "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
> To: "'Phil Morgan'" <roxfromspace at gmail.com>,
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Message-ID: <43B42043ECAA4EA2BF8D8B149B447050 at Bandli1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Several list members emailed me privately regarding the "Nova" series of
> meteorites, whose localities are either unknown or questionable. Learn
> something new everyday :)
>
> -----------------------------------
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> IMCA?#5765
> -----------------------------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Morgan [mailto:roxfromspace at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:47 PM
> To: Ted Bunch
> Cc: Mike Bandli; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Paris, France CM Meteorite
>
> And other like Lafayette are quite vague as well. But are there
> others that don't even have a home country?
>
> Phil
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Ted Bunch <tbear1 at cableone.net> wrote:
>> Not really - consider LA001 002, that supposedly came from a California
>> desert, but not LA.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/22/09 11:50 AM, "Mike Bandli" <fuzzfoot at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> An interesting read for the Paris CM meteorite:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/y9s6wge
>>>
>>> Interestingly, I believe it is the first meteorite officially classified
>>> with no locality.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------
>>> Mike Bandli
>>> Historic Meteorites
>>> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
>>> IMCA?#5765
>>> -----------------------------------
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:40:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: Abdelaziz Alhyane <abdelaziz_alhyane at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [meteorite-list] be carful
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
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> Dear list members,
> A fake youtube virus is going around, i got the message from two people,
> the logo looks different and I did not open the video.
> the message is : x syas that you should see this video.
>
> Anyone else got that message?
>
> Best regards
> Aziz
>
>
>
>
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