[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold (Elgin). Man of his word.

From: bill kies <parkforestmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:37:39 -0600
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[meteorite-list] i'm sorry
SSTEVE ARNOLD
Thu, 02 May 2002 20:31:01 -0700
Hey all, Steve here. I'm sorry for all the postings. I'll keep them down to a low roar from now on. Again I'm sorry. Just to let everyone know, I finally have the ESQUEL pictures.
Thank you for e-mailing me, and have a great day!
Steve Arnold, Chicago!
 
Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:03:40 -0700
I do really feel ashamed for the crap I have given
this list...
Then when I got on the list,I realized I was part of something
even bigger that could get me noticed even more.Well that backed fired
because of my big ego.And yes I do have a big ego.And it has gotten me
into alot of trouble in my life.But I really do want to make ammends with
the few list members with whom I have totally have disrespected.I really
hope to earn your respect again by being true to my action by my apology
yesterday.This is a sincere email of totally being apologitic.I will
maintain from here out,nothing but meteorite related content that will
serve only the interest of everyone on this list and anyone associated to
this list...
I really hope
there is not a gone way over the line,I really so hope that I can win back
all the list members that I have really hurt.Again I am truly sorry.From
now any sales,ebay,givaways,or non-meteorite items will strictly be done
on another list that was meant to be for that reason,I will post to
that.And here is promise I will keep and you can truly count on,if I do
post something like I just stated,I will unsubscribe from this list.
Please again
accept my humble apology for my disrepectful actions and attitudes.
 

2007/06/18 I promise to follow the meteorite rules from now on as well.Can we all do that?? Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!

Sunday, March 12, 2006 4:51 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] last day of sale/I am sorry/AD
Good morning list.I have gotten some rather nasty emails about my
continued spamming of the list with my sales.I do apologize for the
continued mess.I was very stressed out when I did what I did.But after
sometime out to reflect where I want to go,it became clear what is more
important.PEOPLE! After
this sale I will become invisible for a while.I will continue to go by
art's rules.But lately I noticed othe r people have disobeyed them as
well.Again I am sorry.
 

Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:35:09 -0700
I have decided that
this will be my very last round of freebies.

2005/07/17 Hello list I will be short.I want to apoligize to all the good
people on this list for my brash email I sent this morning.There was no harm
intended.It was plain stupid.I should have just kept it private.From now
on,no more sales,no more trades,no more givaways,no more jokes,just
METEORITES.I -- Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
 
campos sales sale
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:29:51 -0800
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
I VOW there will be no more on these
or any subject regarding these stones.Come and get 'em!!
 
Then there was:
Hi again list.I made a mistake on the 527 gram piece.It is the 492 gram
pioece that has the flow lines and the lipping.Not the 527 gram piece.That
is my mistake, for that I apoligize.One has already been sold, so keep 'em
coming.
Then AGAIN there was:
Hi again list.I have just a few of the CAMPOS SALES pieces left forsale at
$2.00 a gram.The 492 gram flow lined specimen is gone,as well as the 449
gram dark crusted piece, as well as the 107 gram piece.I thank those who
bought them.I also have the 373 gram individual with 95% crust still as
well as the 563 gram 2 fragmented pieces and a few more.Get now while they
are hot to go.Sorry for this post,but I am happy to see them going.Chime
in and take one home.The price will never be finer.
Then .... said:
I think Steve has very clearly demonstated how much respect he has for
us.
Which is NONE! It will never stop like "Ground Hog Day", "50 First Dates", "Muppet's Beaker does Chicago Again and Again and Again"...when will it end? NEVER! I kept my promise to keep lurking, but Steve brought me out again at his own request. More bragging....more spam....more acting innnocent and ignorant. Guess I "chimed in".

I was born at night....but not last night!
Arrrrgh!!!!
 
Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:39:13 -0700
SSSSTTEEVVEEY:
NAYSAYER #1 HERE.....This is the clearest example yet of what many list
members have been trying to stop.
Your e-mail:
Hello list.It is time to blow off some steam tonight toward some list
members.People are betting with each other when I blow my promises about
psoting with another means. ("ANOTHER MEANS"...WHAT THE HELL DID YOU JUST
SAY???) (IT REALLY SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU SSTTOORRMMBBRRIINNGGEERR WHEN YOU
HAVE BEEN CATEGORIZED AS A BUFFOON BY THE MAJORITY OF A SCIENTIFIC LIST,
BREAKING
PROMISES SO OFTEN THAT PEOPLE WAGER ON HOW QUICKLY YOU WILL BREAK YOUR
PROMISES, AND ALSO SHOWS HOW MUCH YOU TOTALLY DISRESPECT THE LIST BY YOUR
CONTINUED
POSTINGS) ow I think that is down right moronic (PRETTY FUNNY STATEMENT COMING
FROM YOU. YOU DEFINE THE TERM MORONIC).People
still bug me about my givaways.Why I just do not know.( THIS IS THE CRUX
(LOOK IT UP) OF YOUR PROBLEM. YOU KEEP WRITING THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY PEOPLE
DO
THE THINGS THEY DO TOWARDS YOU...YOU ARE EITHER 1. DUMB AS DISHWATER, 2. IN
SERIOUS AND PATHOLOGICAL DENIAL, 3. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR NEGATIVE IMPACT
TOWARDS THE LIST, AND YOU DISRESPECT THE LIST BY CONTINUING TO POST YOUR
IDIOTIC INANE MESSAGES, 4. YOU ARE DUMBER THAN DISHWATER, E. ALL OF THE ABOVE.
I
CHOOSE "E"....) It really pains me to have to block email address because all
some list members want to do is
harras me for posting to much (SPELLCHECK BROKEN AGAIN??...I HAVE SAID THIS
BEFORE, AND I WILL KEEP SAYING IT. YOU HARASS HUNDREDS OF GOOD, RULES ABIDING
LIST MEMBERS WITH YOUR POSTS SEVERAL TIMES A DAY. PEOPLE WRITE YOU IN LARGE
NUMBERS BECAUSE YOU CONTINUE TO ACT LIKE A MORON, AND THEY WANT YOU TO STOP.
CAN THIS BE ANY CLEARER?????) )Now when I post this, there will probably be
50 more emails condemning me for this.Well you can see where the
immaturaty(SPELLCHECK?) lies. (YES.."IT" LIES IN ELGIN ILLINOIS. THE MAN IN
THE HOT PANTS ON THE ILLINOIS METEORITES WEBSITE) In 2 days I will be going to
mexico for a nice 10
days.Away from computers,cell phones, tv everything that is electronic.(THANK
GOD. 10 DAYS AND NO SSTTEEVVEEYY POSTS)..It
will be a nicely deserverd (SPELLCHECK?) vacation.I also know some of you
will be
estatic (SPELLCHECK?).Well despite the indifferences (WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT
THIS WORD MEANS?? LIST MEMBERS ARE NOT INDIFFERENT TOWARDS YOU. 4 PEOPLE
LIKE YOU, THE REST CAN'T STAND YOU..NO INDIFFERENCE HERE) that some list
members
have with
me,I will not be detered (SPELLCHECK??) from speaking my mind. (THERE IS THAT
DENIAL THING AGAIN! NO AMOUNT OF NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM MANY LIST MEMBERS
WILL DETER YOU FROM RUINING THIS GREAT LIST..WE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF NAYSAYING
"ANTI-STEVE" PEOPLE THAT HAVE RANDOMLY CHOSEN YOU AS OUR SCORNED TARGET. LOOK
IN
THE MIRROR. YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE) As far as I am concerned I
have done nothing wrong (OF COURSE NOT. ACCORDING TO YOU, YOU HAVE NEVER
DONE ANYTHING WRONG. WE JUST LIKE PICKING ON YOU. HOW ABOUT THAT IMCA THING??
 
DID THE PEOPLE THAT YOU HOSED THINK THAT YOU DID NOTHING WRONG?),and I still
have never done anything to anyone to
warrant continue harrasment (SPELLCHECK???) from certain list members. (NOT
INNOCENT DENIAL BOY SSTTEEVVEEYY. HE HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG...GO
AWAY!!!!) People call me DUMB F***,A**HOLE,DUMBA**,MENTAL MIDGET,STUPID
MORON,etc.
(YOU LEFT OUT SO MANY...YOUR LIST IS ONLY 10% COMPLETE) This is coming from
people with whom I have met and talked and drank meteorites. (SO YOU ARE
ADMITTING THAT EVEN PEOPLE THAT YOU THOUGHT LIKED YOU CAN'T STAND YOU NOW
BECAUSE
OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THE LIST...DON'T YOU GET THE HINT?????)I just do not
know (YOU MUST BE JOKING AGAIN!!!) where the attitude has come from in just a
short time towards me. (GO BACK AND READ THE LIST ARCHIVES OF YOUR IDIOTIC
SPAMMER POSTS....YOU HAVE 0 CREDIBILITY!!!) It
is amazing! (NO, YOUR LIVING IN DENIAL IS AMAZING!!!) Well I also know that I
have my fan base out there. (4 PEOPLE OF OF SEVERAL HUNDRED DOES NOT
CONSTITUTE A FAN BASE) I really
want to thank them for thier (SPELLCHECK??) support. (WRITE ALL 4 OF THEM
PRIVATELY OFF LIST. SPARE THE LIST) I know if the posting becomes a small
roar, and not a huge roar, I might win back some of those people whom
continue to boycott me. (AFTER ALL YOU HAVE DONE TO TRY AND SINGLE-HANDEDLY
RUIN THE LIST, YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LINE UP AND ASSUME THAT
SSSTTEEVVEEY THE HUMAN SERIAL PROMISE BREAKER IS GOING TO CHANGE HIS
SPOTS???..HAHAHAHAHA, BEST ONE I HAVE HEARD TODAY) .......Well I have enjoyed
doing the givaways
(SPELLCHECK???), (INGRATIATING YOURSELF BY BUYING YOUR WAY IN) I have
enjoyed selling on ebay, (NICE PICS!!!) and I have enjoyed selling to people
as well.Also
I just want to put to rest one thing.I have NEVER,NEVER cut or broken any
of my meteorites, to givaway as freebies.(BS) These pieces were either
broken,or I just gave away the whole piece.NO CUT OR BROKEN PIECES.I
treasure these other worldly pieces from space just as much as the next
collecter. (YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON ANYONE KNOWS THAT HAS HAD THE UNFORTUNATE
BREAKING OF SO MANY PIECES. YOU HAVE WRITTEN THE LIST ABOUT THEM
BREAKING..IF YOU CARED, THEY WOULD NOT BE BROKEN) I have nothing to apoligize
(spellcheck??) for to anyone,unless I have done
something wrong. (THE APOLOGY RECEIVING LINE IS LONG AND DISTINGUISHED) Well
that is my steam vent venting and it has cooled
down. (GOSH SSTTEEVEEYY....WE ALL FEEL SO MUCH BETTER NOW)I hope everyone has
a great weekend and week ahead,and I look forward
to posting again when I get back. (DENIAL BOY....WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU WILL
NEVER CHANGE. YOU WILL KEEP SELFISHLY DISRESPECTING THIS WONDEFUL LIST BECAUSE
YOU ARE A SERIAL POSTER AND YOU THINK YOU ARE A REAL METEORITE STUD...YOU ARE
NOT..PLEASE GO AWAY!!!) .I will also have pictures to post on my
website of my vacation. (HONEY, GET THE OLD STYLE BEER AND THE
TWINKIES...BIGGG STTORMBBRINNGER STTEEVEY WILL BE POSTING HIS VACATION PICS IN
10 DAYS....
 
[meteorite-list] (AD) another trade offer
steve arnold
Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:22:27 -0800
Hi list.I know I should have made this with the other
post,but I only came up with the idea today.Again I am
sorry to the naysayers out there.I have a 159 gram
endcut of MUNDRABILLA with a hole and is etched.It
also has the very nice color on the backside of a
typical mundrabilla.I am looking for stones or
meso's.How about some nice GAO.Let me know
offlist.Thanks again,and I am sorry.
steve
Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
 
[meteorite-list] the last one
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Mon, 26 Aug 2002 05:07:41 -0700
You all have made your points. I know how you all feel. I'm sorry for
posting you. No more posts!!!
=====
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
The Midwest Meteorite Collector!
 
[meteorite-list] its over for me
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:19:00 -0800
Hello list.It is a sad day for me.I have decided to leave meteorites.I am
putting up most of my collection forsale.I will keep a few speciemns,but
by large,most will be up forsale.I will put up on my website what I will
be selling.Let me know what you want and I will get back to you.Again it
has been a fun ride.I have met alot of great people,but it is better to
leave this hobby with my head held up high.And I am sorry to have offened
anyone.

                             steve arnold,chicago,usa
Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
 
 [meteorite-list] spamming
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:06:49 -0700
Hi all. I have been accused of spamming on the list. I want to apologize
to you all. Someone does not like me! In the future I'll post on another
list. I do not want to bring this good group down in the mud. So please
forgive me. I just want to get along with everyone. Only 2 of you have met
me. I'm not a bad person. If I have offended you by my spamming I'm sorry.
Everyone please have a good night.
                                                       Steve
 
[meteorite-list] An open message to all list members
Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:09:35 -0700
To all list members,
 
I?m sure most of you have seen my emails relating to the misrepresentations
and falsehoods perpetrated by Steve (Chicago) Arnold in his ads and posts.
First of all, let me apologize to the list membership for making these
emails public and in effect, loading up your mailboxes. I believe there is
good reason, however, for making these emails public. It is for that reason
I felt I should explain some of the background issues and provide my
rationale below.
 
Everyone on this list has invested a lot of time, effort, and most
importantly, money in their respective meteorite collections. I personally
take great umbrage at anyone who would jeopardize my collection, either
directly or indirectly, by casting ANY doubt on ANY facet or aspect of
collecting meteorites. The process of buying and selling meteorites and the
specimens themselves ALL have to be genuine and above reproach at ALL times
 
We also have a number of list members who make their living by selling
meteorites. I won?t even begin to speak for them, but I?ve seen several of
these folks get down and dirty at any potential threat to their livelihood?.
and rightfully so.
 
My issue with Steve (Chicago) Arnold is that he just doesn?t care what he
puts in his ads. In July, when I first caught his ads containing
misrepresentations and falsehoods, he told me:
 
 
?WHAT IS IT TO YOU?? MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.?
 
 
I ask you all?. What kind of reply is that? What does that tell you about
Steve (Chicago) Arnold?s integrity and morals?
 
Today, I noticed a misrepresentation on one of his eBay sales and mentioned
it on the list (as I previously promised I would --- see below). Again, I
received these rather disturbing comments from Steve.
 
 
?I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD STOP HARRASING ME ABOUT THIS PETTY BULL****.?
[replaced with * so as to not offend]
 
?I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE CONTINOUSLY HARRISING ME FOR NO REASON.?
 
?IT IS NOT YOUR PURPOSE IN LIFE TO POLICE ME OR EBAY,OR ANYONE ELSE IN THIS
WORLD EXCEPT YOURSELF.ENOUGH OF THIS BULL****.? [replaced with * so as to
not offend]
 
 
I?m sorry, but if anyone thinks that perpetrating misrepresentations and
falsehoods when selling meteorites is ?PETTY BULL****? or that calling it to
his attention is ?HARRISING ME FOR NO REASON? then WE as a community have
REAL problems. This poor pathetic act of his is a scam. I invite all list
members to go back to the archives and look at Steve?s MO. If anyone
catches him doing something he shouldn?t, he immediate screams that he is
being harassed.
 
OK, so why am I getting involved in this? I see Steve (Chicago) Arnold as a
direct threat to this great hobby (and in some cases, livelihood) of ours
and also more specifically to the time, effort, and money I?ve invested in
my collection. As I told Steve several weeks ago:
 
 
?You're a dangerous person, Steve. You're a danger to any and ALL
legitimate dealers, sellers, and collectors of meteorites. You're like the
auto industry back 40-50 years ago. They used to misrepresent and make
false claims about the safety of their vehicles and then, along came a man
named Nader.
 
I gave you fair warning in two previous emails that I was 1) going to make
it my business "MAKING SURE UNSUSPECTING POTENTIAL BUYERS ARE AWARE OF YOUR
LIES" and 2) "any recurrence will again be brought out in a public forum".
 
You now have my undivided attention. I've going to be your own personal
Ralph Nader. Every time you post a misleading/untruthful/fraudulent ad, I'm
going to expose it... publicly. You're a loose canon on deck and someone
needs to expose you for what you are.?
 
 
I told Steve today, that he could stop my posts if he would just stop the
misrepresentations and falsehoods.
 
Some of you might be thinking that I?m just picking on Steve. Well, in all
honesty, I?ve gone after several other sellers on eBay who have done the
same thing (and I'll continue to do so). The responses I got back from them
was typically something like? Oh, I?m sorry. I made a mistake and will
correct it immediately. Watching these individuals over time and you don?t
see a recurrence. In other words, it was a one-time, honest mistake. Steve
(Chicago) Arnold has my undivided attention because he does this repeatedly
and responds with comments like ?WHAT IS IT TO YOU?? MIND YOUR OWN
BUSINESS.?
 
Again, I apologize to all list members for these emails. I?m hoping the
publicity and peer pressure will convince Steve (Chicago) Arnold develop a
different set of morals.
 
[meteorite-list] apology
STEVE ARNOLD
Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:01:52 -0800
Hi list. It seems some people on this list are on me again for to much"SPAMMING".I seem to owe everyone an apology. Iam going to tucson as a novice as far as the social and know;edge part of this great hobby. I want people to like me and accept me for who I am. I will really try to tone it down in the future. Icannot help my aggresive nature. That is who I am as a person. And I am not going to change for anyone. But I am sorry for the few who do not like me because of my SPAMMING. I will try and tone it down in the future. I just love this hobby so much. Again I apoligize for my over agressiveness.
                                                   steve arnold, chicago
Steve r. Arnold, Chicago, il, 60107
The midwest meteorite collector!
I.M.C.A. member #6728
Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
 
Fri, 27 May 2005 18:30:21 -0700
Original message from "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>: --------------

> Hello list.I guess it was another ANTI-STEVE BASHING DAY for what I saw on
> the 40 or more emails I got.Well I am taking the advise of mr.herr martin
> and take my sales to YAHOOGROUPS to make advertisements concerning
> meteorites.I am truly sorry for all the socalled spam I have been giving
> the list.It will not happen anymore.I should have done this along time
> ago.I KNOW what this list is for.And you are right, 30 emails concerning
> the same thing in 1 month is to much.Well with that said, I hope all my
> american friends have a very nice and safe holiday.
>
> steve arnold, chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
>
>
> Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!
 
[meteorite-list] nwa 176 - or: Playing dead will NOT work
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:17:13 -0700
Hi Steve,
sorry that I have to choose this way to contact you, but you are
ignoring all my emails and play dead.
Steve, when I buy two items from you and you just send me one, I get a
little bit disturbed. When I tell you that one is missing and you tell
me you sent both, although my girl friend has seen me unpacking your
mail and finding just one piece, I get more disturbed. But when you then
ignore all my emails that ask you to resolve that matter, I get angry.
And I am very angry now.
It's not about the loss of $20 for me. It's about lack of character,
betrayal and a CONTINUED story of playing foul.
May I remind you of the tricks you played with your sale lately? When
you offered bigger and bigger discounts, but at the same time raised
base prices so the items became more expensive in reality? You ducked
and covered when I found out your malpractice. You can't duck and cover
now.
Steve, either send me the missing NWA 067, refund my money or lose one
of your few remaining friends. It's up to you. Choose wisely.
 
[meteorite-list] clarafication on my meteorite sale and other matters
Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:06:54 -0700
Hello list.I want to clarify my meteorite sale to everyone.If you go ahead
and pic 3 specimens you want,lets say, for $40, $50, and $60.You have
$150.You divide by 3 and that is what you pay.$50 plus shipping.I am
really sorry for goof.I know that I sometimes hurt myself with the way I
type.I want to apoligize for my rudeness.I'll try to pay more attention to
this matter in the future.Also on a side note,I remedied the situation
with xxxxxxxx xxxx.Also one more item,I do not like public insults on the
list.If you want to tell me something, please do it in private.I would
never stoop to anything like that.Again please forgive my computer
stupidisy.
 
on 8/25/02 7:03 PM, xxxx at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hi xxxxx and all,
>>
>> Although I hate to address this issue, xxxxx is 100% right in his
assessment
>> of Steve
>> Arnold from Chicago. When Steve started posting to the list, I tried to
help
>> him out
>> and tell him what the list was for. I even tried to suggest some lists
that
>> might be
>> more for what he was trying to do. I received a very arrogant (and
nasty)
>> message back
>> from him saying he would pretty much do what he wanted to do and it was
free
>> enterprise and he could post what he wanted to the list. I then informed
him
>> he would
>> be filtered from my emails from that time on and he has been. The only
time I
>> know
>> something is going on is when someone quotes or responds to his email on
the
>> list.
>> Even these are too frequent!
>>
>> It wasn't long until he was asked to tone down the posts. He hasn't
listen and
>> won't.
>> I agree that he is probably a nice guy in some ways and I think he is
>> passionate about
>> collecting but he doesn't get what the list is for. If he thinks he is
getting
>> picked
>> on, it is because he doesn't listen to reason.
>>
>> Steve, I hope you will listen this time around but I doubt it.
>>
>> Sorry to list members who have been offended but I am offended by
someone who
>> disrupts
>> the list time and time again because he can't listen to what is being
said.
>> Anyone can
>> look at the list rules and I think it is pretty clear that Steve has
taken
>> advantage
>> and push his luck far too often.
                                                
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