[meteorite-list] Michael Blood Auction - Tucson 2010 Show

From: Michael Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:14:31 -0800
Message-ID: <C74C22F7.9D30%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Thanks, Greg,
        Good point about dealers buying at the auction -
Dudes! If a DEALER is bidding, you KNOW it is well
Below what it will retail for.... They MUST mark up
Well over cost BECAUSE:
1 - They are tying up capital
2 - Until it sells, they have LOST money
3 - They nearly always make a new label, put it in
A nice display case, etc.
4 - The BIG issue is they may have money "tied up"
In an item for a few days, a few weeks, a few months
Or even a few years.
        So, when you are a collector and dealers are bidding
It is a DEAD GIVEAWAY that you would get the best
Possible price if you bid on the item.
        I have always been amazed to hear collectors complain
That "the dealers are buying everything." Well, figure it out:
If they are buying it, it is because it is well below what they
Will sell it for - therefore, the best possible bargain you will
Find on that fall or find.
        By the way: I am adding 25 ADDITIONAL items today,
Bringing the total to about 75 right now - so, there is still room
For more......Greg? Others?
        The range as of today is from low two digit specimens
To 3 and 4 digit specimens. Something for every pocket book.
        Please contact me off list for acceptability of items you
Would be interested in offering.
        Best wishes, Michael


On 12/14/09 3:35 PM, "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at htn.net> wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> Michael, you skipped the perfect opportunity to draw attention to the famous
> (and infamous), Michael Blood Tucson Meteorite Auction with your reply to
> the List regarding the possibility of the Mineral Show dumping Tucson for
> Vegas!!
>
> Since Captain Blood has other "Captainly" duties on his ship, I will draw
> your attention to Michael Blood's 2010 Tucson Auction page:
> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction10.html
>
> Typically, I feel, the Denver and Tucson Show auctions are a 'give-back' to
> collectors as items always sell for way less than any time else, which
> includes; web sites, eBay or the like. These auctions are a great place to
> pick some very excellent deals!!! Often, however, dealers are the ones who
> see the true value of these items at the 'Shows' and out-bid the other
> participants in order to re-sell the items later...
>
> I plan to make it to the Tucson Show in 2010. After missing 2009's Show due
> to other adventures, I look forward to meeting up with old and new friends!
>
> Best regards,
> Greg
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Blood" <mlblood at cox.net>
> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Meteorite List"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show
>
>
>> Damn! Adam,
>> I thik I'll just kill myself!
>> Oh, ya, it's that ol' "Yesterday was so much better" phenomenon.
>> While I must admit I resent the hell out of the way Tucson fails to
>> Provide decent traffic and parking accommodations, you must admit
>> That there are still so damned many rooms you could not walk in and
>> Out, spending an average of 5 min. in each and still cover the Show in
>> A week.
>> I hear rumors Tucson has actually "fixed" all the on and off
>> ramps -
>> That's a start....
>> I don't know what you were doing and finding in Tucson 5 years
>> Ago, but it is pretty much the same to me - perhaps your being ripped
>> Off by one of the hotels has soured you, Adam.
>> Come on now, and get ready to have a GREAT Tucson Show! It has
>> Been the best thing that my wife and I do together every year (with the
>> Exception of her mother's death last show). It is a place you can relax,
>> Go to bed early, no TV, too many friends to be able to have dinner or
>> Even lunch and dinner with all of them, FABULOUS meteorites always
>> Showing up, Geoff and Anne Black beating their "old" standard
>> Of organization and professionalism year after year.
>> Hell, how can you NOT have the time of your life?
>> Common, now, Adam... Get with it or we will all hold you down
>> And tickle you!
>> Best wishes, Michael
>>
>>
>> On 12/14/09 11:44 AM, "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> I hope you are right about Tucson. Las Vegas already has a world class
>>> annual
>>> gem show, just not a mineral show. There are several Gem and Mineral
>>> shows
>>> across the world but only one can be the largest. I saw plenty of empty
>>> rooms
>>> for vendors at the hotels last year so there was no waiting in line as
>>> used to
>>> be the case. If Las Vegas wanted to host the world's largest gem and
>>> mineral
>>> show, I am sure they could do so without much problem. It would be like
>>> taking a sucker away from a baby. So many take great shows for granted,
>>> just
>>> to lose them when a more reasonable and exciting venue appears.
>>>
>>> The Tucson show has been going down hill for years so maybe it is time
>>> for the
>>> City Council to start listening. Part of the charm of Tucson was walking
>>> from
>>> room to room and checking out the goods. Several of the old hotels that
>>> could
>>> accommodate this kind of foot traffic have been turned into low-income
>>> housing. The replacement hotels are not designed with the Gem and Mineral
>>> show
>>> in mind so the charm is leaving regardless and the show seems to be dying
>>> slowly. Ad in the terrible rise in the crime rate and very few venture
>>> out at
>>> night like they used to.
>>>
>>> I just want to attend at least one more time before all of the charm is
>>> gone
>>> or the show has died. Maybe it isn't too late for something to be done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: "cdtucson at cox.net" <cdtucson at cox.net>
>>> To: Adam <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; Adam Hupe
>>> <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:58:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
>>>
>>> Adam,
>>> You may be right but consider this.
>>> Nascar is a one trick pony. It has nobody to replace them. So off they go
>>> to
>>> Vegas. Seems very wise to me.
>>> Tucson is a completely different animal.
>>> If anyone leaves any venue in Tucson there are ten others in line to take
>>> there place.
>>> Seriously. any of the many gem shows leaving Tucson would be suicidal. It
>>> would be like venders pulling out of Costco.
>>> You would have to be an idiot to do that. Like The Tucson Gem show, there
>>> would be many in line to take your spot.
>>> After all to be in Costco selling your product means instant success.
>>> Vegas will never replace Tucson. What would happen if Vegas takes off is
>>> that
>>> there would be one more gem show to attend. It would never replace Tucson
>>> but
>>> would add to the chain of
>>> regularly scheduled shows that dealers would be forced to attend.
>>> Potentially
>>> doubling overhead and breaking some dealers.
>>> There are only so many buyers and having two shows might be a bit much.
>>> Besides all that. IMHO. Vegas is for Vegas type stuff. There are only so
>>> many
>>> black chips to go around. It would be like moving the Gem show to
>>> Disneyland.
>>> Too many distractions. Peeps don't go to Disneyland to buy rocks and
>>> gems.
>>> No, I think Tucson may be like EBay or Costco. they basically own the
>>> market
>>> and only a fool would leave.
>>> And one other thing. Tucson is going to be building yet another bridge
>>> across
>>> the freeway in the down town area. This will greatly benefit the gem show
>>> goers.
>>> My 2 cents.
>>> Thanks
>>> Carl
>>> --
>>> Carl or Debbie Esparza
>>> Meteoritemax
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Geoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else
>>>> : )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last.
>>>> I
>>>> would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing
>>>> anything to make it stay.
>>>>
>>>> NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual
>>>> championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New
>>>> York.
>>>> They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what
>>>> happened.
>>>> Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they
>>>> are
>>>> making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>>> From what I have heard, Tucson has not lifted a finger to prevent the
>>>>> largest promoter from leaving and taking several thousand vendors with
>>>>> him.
>>>>> Do not underestimate Las Vegas, they have a way of getting what they
>>>>> want
>>>>> and they are already in a position to take. They are very hungry
>>>>> right now
>>>>> and an additional $100,000,000 in annual revenues is pretty attractive.
>>>>> They
>>>>> could accommodate this show very easily, cater much better to vendor
>>>>> needs
>>>>> and much cheaper.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link to NASCAR discussing their move to Las Vegas:
>>>> http://www.cbssports.com/autoracing/story/12615099/nascars-las-vegas-banque
>>>> t-
>>>> bet-pays-off
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hope the Tucson City Council members take note and makes the Gem and
>>>> Mineral show a better experience.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
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