[meteorite-list] Willamette

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:42:52 -0800
Message-ID: <93aaac890912111442r6684c262hcd7b4704a0d99e9d_at_mail.gmail.com>

E.P.,
Steve's note does not address or resolve a single one of the issues I
brought up, and only gives a possible explanation for why the tribe
didn't *purchase* a specimen from Matt or Darryl; and since Matt
offered to donate one to them, this still seems a poor explanation. I
didn't address this issue/question in my email, so, no, this clarifies
nothing.
Jason

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:43 AM, E.P. Grondine <epgrondine at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve -
>
> You may have it, what the GR lawyers and leaders are thinking. In any case, the AMNH left Darryl hanging in the wind, AS WELL AS ANY FUTURE PURCHASERS.
>
> PS - Jason, I hope Steve's explanation makes this clearer to you.
>
> I also hope an honorable and acceptable way out appears. I hope the AMNH steps up to the plate.
>
> E.P. Grondine
> Man and Impact in the Americas
>
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Steve Dunklee <sdunklee72520 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Steve Dunklee <sdunklee72520 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Willamette
>> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 3:37 AM
>
>> The GR most likely did not respond
>> due to the nature of the current legal process. I would
>> compare it to buying your stolen item from a pawn shop. the
>> pawn shop did not know the item was hot and made a legal
>> purchase. which would also place a monetary value on the
>> main mass. They can not buy a piece without putting thier
>> claim to the main mass in jeopardy. there may also be a gag
>> order in the case by the Judge which would prevent them from
>> responding.
>
>> instead of trying to have the GR buy the piece it
>> should be returned to the seller with a request for a
>> refund, as the original sale/trade was illegal.
>
>> its like sayinmg to them "hey i just bought your stolen car! would you like to buy it back?"
>
>> have a great day
>> Steve
>>
>> --- On Thu, 12/10/09, E.P. Grondine <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: E.P. Grondine <epgrondine at yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Willamette
>> > To: mail at mhmeteorites.com,
>> meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com,
>> meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com,
>> countdeiro at earthlink.net
>> > Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 9:29 AM
>> > Matt -
>> >
>> > Just my opinion but it is likely that the slicing was
>> a
>> > further desecration in their view, so their lack of
>> response
>> > comes as no surprise.
>> >
>> > I don't think Count Deiro's advice is very good. I
>> would
>> > suggest contacting them again - perhaps parts of the
>> slice
>> > could be used by them in an appropriate manner.
>> >
>> > Ed
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, countdeiro at earthlink.net
>> > <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: countdeiro at earthlink.net
>> > <countdeiro at earthlink.net>
>> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Willamette
>> > > To: mail at mhmeteorites.com,
>> > "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>,
>> > meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com,
>> > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 11:11 PM
>> > > The Grand Ronde band of American
>> > > Indians own the largest and most profitable
>> > hotel/casino in
>> > > Oregon. Anybody who is at least 1/8th GR gets a
>> > percentage
>> > > every month . I wouldn't bother either.
>> > > Count Deiro
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: Matt Morgan <mail at mhmeteorites.com>
>> > > >Sent: Dec 9, 2009 11:04 PM
>> > > >To: "E.P. Grondine" <epgrondine at yahoo.com>,
>> > > meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com,
>> > > meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Willamette
>> > > >
>> > > >FYI, I offered the GR a generous slice of my
>> > Willamette
>> > > and they didn't even respond to me. ?If I were
>> > Darryl,
>> > > I wouldn't even bother.
>> > > >
>> > > >Matt Morgan
>> > > >------Original Message------
>> > > >From: E.P. Grondine
>> > > >Sender: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > >To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Willamette
>> > > >Sent: Dec 9, 2009 8:44 PM
>> > > >
>> > > >Darryl -
>> > > >
>> > > >May I suggest to you that perhaps it would be
>> best
>> > to
>> > > find a buyer for the Willamette piece who wanted
>> a tax
>> > write
>> > > off for gifting it back to the Grand Ronde
>> peoples? I
>> > don't
>> > > know their financial situation, or plans, but I
>> would
>> > > suggest contacting their elders as well before
>> doing
>> > > anything.
>> > > >
>> > > >E.P. Grondine
>> > > >Man and Impact in the Americas
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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