[meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits & Contest Update

From: Bob Loeffler <bobl_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:26:08 -0600
Message-ID: <20090829172611.2AA041056F_at_mailwash5.pair.com>

> Hey Bob, Anita, List,
> Thanks for the plug for Spacifieds! I appreciate it. ;)

No problem, Eric. :-)

> Also, Thank you very much for the kind words on what I'm doing Bob. I'm
> trying against all odds, and fighting upstream and uphill, but it seems
> to be working. We'll see.

It does look good. Keep up the great work.

> I don't know about you, but I would certainly like better to read about
> something that is contributing to the meteorite and astronomy world and
> community as a whole, rather than the negative posts that's been posted
> of late. Not to get into anything heavy, but I've written LONG emails
> that I have not posted to the list concerning this issue. Rather than
> post more negative content, I wanted to actually contribute something
> instead. Something for everyone to use and enjoy.

> To sum it up. If they can post their negative stuff without consequences
> so can I! Simple as that. Sorry if that sounds petty or harsh or like a
> double standard but sometimes the truth hurts.

You are comparing apples to oranges. I never said, nor implied, that I
wanted to see negative posts or other off topic posts versus your ads. No
one ever asked "Would you rather see Eric's ads or negative posts? Pick
one." That's not at issue here.

> Before anyone judges me, my posts or my sites, I'd like you to think
> back about the last month or two and the posts to the list, and you'll
> be forced to agree that my posts, are NOTHING compared to the libelous,
> and flaming attacks that EVERYONE has had to deal with.

Again, this is not the issue or question. No matter how many negative or
off-topic posts there are, it doesn't give you or anyone else the right to
break the rules.

> I don't have to make it, I don't have to offer free ads, I don't have to
> give away free links to dealer sites, I don't have to pay the fees it
> costs me to run the site, I don't have to spend the time designing it, I
> don't have to spend countless hours building and marketing it, I don't
> have to build sites for other people on list, I don't have to help
> people with their advertising in this down economy, I don't have to do
> anything concerning this list.

> I do it because I genuinely want to, and because I want to contribute
> something to the community! NOT solely to make money or sell ad space.

And I'm sure everyone is glad you are doing this for the meteorite
community. For that, I thank you sincerely.

> I ask everyone, honestly which is worse? My so called "ads" or the
> vitriol that's been spewed forth on this list the last couple months! If
> you can answer that honestly I want to here from you.

Again, why do you compare what everyone else is doing to justify why you
broke the rule? It doesn't matter "which is worse". Bad is bad. Breaking
the rules is bad. The level of "badness" (yeah, I know, it's not a word)
doesn't matter.

> By the way, take a look at my new site and take part. Don't just
> complain about my posts. Have any of you actually gone to the site and
> tried it?

Yes, your site is good. I have not posted anything to it, but I can see it
is a good site.

I won't beat this dead horse anymore.

Regards,

Bob



Bob Loeffler wrote:
> Oh my god, Eric! Enough! Please. I know you are trying to provide a
> much-needed service to everyone, but you said a few days ago that your
posts
> are not Ads, yet they really are. They are more annoying than most other
> peoples' ads and you are trying to pull more and more people to see your
> websites, so in effect, THEY ARE ADS. Did Billy Mays reincarnate himself
in
> your body??? :-) Even if YOU are not selling meteorite specimens on your
> Spacifieds.com website, and the service that you are making available is
> free to others, it is still an advertisement because ads don't have to
> result in direct sales; you are drumming up visits to your websites where
> you are trying to rent ad space on your websites ("P.S. I still have 5
> (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites USA home page. $99
year
> or $150 for both Meteorites USA and MeteoriteBlog.com..."), so that's
> obviously an ad. You are sending out one or two of these "updates" every
> day. Only ONE per week, please. Maybe at the end of the week you can
tell
> us about all of the new features or new websites in ONE e-mail.
>
> BTW, I don't have a problem with your website or content; I actually like
> what you are doing. It's the announcements/ads that are breaking the
rules.
> Maybe I'm wrong... and if I am, I'm sure a few people will tell me. :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
Meteorites
> USA
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:23 PM
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Over 2000 Hits & Contest Update
>
> Hi guys, Just a quick email to say thanks for over 2000 Hits!
>
> Spacifieds.com -
> Over - 2400 Hits In Less than 48 hrs
> Over - 400+ unique visitors have either posted ads or visited
> 46 Total Ads Posted
>
> Not too shabby for a brand new site... Thanks Guys!
>
> Spacifieds.com is Free to post your items for sale of trade
> Auto Tweet: Automatically posts all ad listings to the "Official"
> Spacifieds.com Twitter page LIVE! For FREE!
> ReTweet Button - In ALL ad listing. Allows visitors and you to retweet
> any ad posting!
> You can even Retweet your own ad listing directly to Twitter!
>
> Free Meteorite Contest: Get the most views on your ad listing and get
> this meteorite:
>
http://www.spacifieds.com/meteorites/free-meteorite-contest-post-ads-win-det
> ails/
>
> UPDATE - Current CONTEST Leader: Pictorial Catalogue On One Hundred
> Indian Meteorites (1999) (99 views)
> Posting a link to this would be unfair, so I'll let you check it out if
> you want to see it.
>
> Ebay Links: YES! You are allowed to post your individual Ebay Auction
> links or links to your Ebay store in your ad listings.
>
> Dealers: YES! you can include links directly to your Spacifieds ad
> listings in your emails and advertisements just like you do with your
> Ebay auctions. The links are search engine friendly too, meaning Google
> likes them. And there's no symbols or nonsense that could cause broken
> links.
>
> BlogRoll Link: Free Blogroll link to your astronomy or meteorite related
> website just for posting 10 ads or more. This link is visible to
> visitors on EVERY page of the site.
>
> Premium Featured AD Space: Top Of Every Page! I've added 18 spots! 50x50
> pixel banner ads at the top of the site. These ads display on EVERY page
> of the site!
>
> There's really a lot more but you have to join to find out.
> http://www.spacifieds.com
>
> What are you waiting for.
>
> Thanks everyone, for all your help, advice, and feedback, maybe this
> could actually turn into something useful for the meteorite and
> astronomy community.
>
> I know you can use it, and hope you like it!
>
> Also I just wanted to say, Spacifieds is not limited to meteorites. If
> you're an amateur or professional astronomer, astronomy buff, or
> scientist you're more than welcome to post your astronomy related
> classified free. Trade items and Wanted ad listings are welcome too. Got
> an old collection of Astronomy magazines you want to sell? Space related
> comics? How about an old telescope, or collectible lithograph? Maybe you
> have a digital camera, or some other electronic device. Scientific
> equipment is also welcome. Microscopes, scales, testing equipment, lab
> equipment. Basically anything related to astronomy can be listed for
> free. Buy, Sell, Trade, and Wanted listings.
>
> Enjoy...
>
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
> Spacifieds.com
>
> P.S. I still have 5 (125x125 pixel) ad spots available on the Meteorites
> USA home page. $99 year or $150 for both Meteorites USA and
> MeteoriteBlog.com http://www.meteoritesusa.com/ads.htm
>
>
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