[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

From: Gingell, Tim <Tim.Gingell_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:11:39 +0100
Message-ID: <100F37D3A283C749B712FC0923D7AB5B04881345_at_GLAMSG58.europe.jacobs.com>

Please don't tell me this is gonna be the start of another chain of list
members getting run down again

-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Walter
Branch
Sent: 27 August 2009 11:43
To: Bill Mason; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

Bill-

Count yourself as one of those "stupid" people who let their emotions rule
over "rational thinking." When you know all the details of the case, then
you to can judge others.

-Walter Branch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Mason" <bmason3 at comcast.net>
To: "'Anita Westlake'" <anitawestlake at att.net>; <cynapse at charter.net>;
<meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information


Dear Fellow members, Today in the United States we have a group of people
who are so insecure and so stupid that they do not have the ability to think
beyond their own have little world....me,me,me is the limit of their scope
of existence. Consider the source, when being
Accused - you'd find this woman probably totally miserable. The judge who
ruled by rule of law - no rational thinking on his part - no understanding
only unimaginative condemnation. We are in trouble-when emotion wins over
rational thinking.

Bill Mason "rusting"






-----Original Message-----
From: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Anita
Westlake
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:12 PM
To: cynapse at charter.net; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

Hi Darren:
I think this woman was a nut-job b /c she over-reacted to trepassing.
Makes me think she had a still or something else she was hiding!
Sure, I don't want people trespassing on my property, but to take it to
court seems a little extreme to me. What I would have done, had it been me,
would be to say: "Cool! Let me know if you find anything!"
I realize that not all people think like me. 'Tis a pity.
Anita



----- Original Message ----
From: Darren Garrison <cynapse at charter.net>
To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:48:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Sentenced- new information

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 20:20:47 EDT, you wrote:

>You must be joking! It's not like they were breaking into her house.
>

My "home" includes my land. If you are on my land, you are "in my house."

>I own 700+ acres in Idaho and if I took a shot at someone every time there

>were dirt bikers, snowmobilers, horse riders, hikers or hunters on my
>land, I would run out of ammo. Crossing someone's land that is not fenced
and
>posted is not that big of a deal in a civilized culture.
>

There is a difference between "crossing" and "wandering around on." And
there
is a difference between having hundreds of acres of open land and having a
few
acres that you live in, alone, elderly, and with a history of armed poachers
on
your land. Staying the holy hell off of someone else's personal property
also
should not be a problem in a civilized culture.

>Don't make them out to be bad people or unprofesional. They were just
>unlucky enough to cross a nut jobs path!

I don't make them out to be bad people-- just wrong. And this woman is NOT
a
nut job. She was 100% within her rights. I don't know this woman, but I'm
personally offended at her being characterized as a crackpot-- she was
RIGHT,
the collectors were WRONG.

Some people think that their homes and their land are a personal refuge from
the
outside world where you can relax, live as you want, and BE SAFE. You have
no
way of knowing what the intentions of any trespasser are-- they could be
harmless, and they could be out to rob or kill you-- and at the very least,
they
are disturbing your privacy. The burden is NOT on the home owner to prove
that
a trespasser is harmless before treating them like they are a danger. If a
total stranger is found wandering on my property, the logical, sane, and
self-preserving thing to do is be on my guard and assume that they are a
risk
until THEY prove that they are not.

I used to wish a meteorite would fall on my property-- but after joining
this
list, I no longer wish that. People with the attitude of being able to go
wherever they damn well please without permission and people with attitudes
like
Steve Arnold's, where he bragged about using hard-sell tactics to try to
badger
land owners into letting him search their lands make me hope like hell that
a
meteorite never lands anywhere near me.
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