[meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites

From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaermann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:25:52 +0200
Message-ID: <1FCC5D20EE514AD08E39FD25A07C3035_at_thinkcentre>

Well, here we go ...
http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/mystery-themen/2009/08/alien-baby/ausserirdischer-in-mexico-gefangen.html
(sorry, in German only - "Mexico - Alien baby caught in a trap")

Maybe they are already under us, maybe their boss even on this list,
scientifically testing the borders of human tolerance.

Looking forward to receiving the hole alsacien, Zelimir, via Air Mail ;-)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Zelimir Gabelica" <Zelimir.Gabelica at uha.fr>
To: "Matthias B?rmann" <majbaermann at web.de>; "Martin Altmann"
<altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites


Hi all,

After about one week of silent mail, here I can
restart reading the (very various) posts that
arrived (including some on meteorites though....)

Regarding the surrealistic topic on "holes in
stone meteorites" and, by extension, the funny
debate on "holes on Earth", I am surprised that
Martin did not mention the famous theories (and
pictures!) of the "Hollow Earth"

Browsing through Google (or alike) provides you,
with that keyword, hundreds of links, some truly
exotic...although...who knows ?

See for example here:

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hollowearth.html

Or here:

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0008d.htm#pe

In this latter site all the links are
interesting. See for example remarks about
terrestrial antipodes on another page of that link:

http://www.xenophilia.com/zb0008h.htm

This being, there is still so much to be said on
holes. I have jokes on that (in mind) and also a
recipe (for Matthias) on how to handle and send (meteorite) holes by air
mail!

But to stay short, let me just end by an apparent paradox:

You decide to buy cheese with holes (e.g. Emmenthal)
The more cheese (you get), the more holes
But also:
the more holes, the less cheese!

Think....smile and stay happy!

Zelimir

At 11:12 23/08/2009, Matthias B?rmann wrote:
>No, Martin, no, I wanna believe!
>
>
>
>Well I see, I'd have to look for a dealer who could offer me a meteorite
>with hole on Ebay, withdraw the meteorite and so expertedly isolate the
>hole
>and ship it to me separately - a pure essential hole, so to say, a
>nothing-else-than-a-hole. As this hole would be customable, the hole,
>sorry,
>the whole problem would be solved perfectly:
>
>
>
>I'd join our experts from the German custom authorities! They are
>grandmasters of definition and they finally would reveal the mystery of the
>hole (perhaps evoking an even more mysterious mystery).
>
>
>
>Be sure: there would be a howl around the hole close to Ulm.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann"
><altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:57 AM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>Matthias,
>
>I beg your pardon. That there would be "holes" in the universe is an even
>more gigantic hoax than the Moon-landing.
>
>
>Each child knows, that there can't be a vacuum or a "nothing" between the
>spheres of the stars.
>
>Here judge by your own.
>
>A pretended "black hole" in space:
>http://kuerzer.de/blackhole
>
>and compare:
>http://kuerzer.de/holehoaxproof
>
>
>Ooops, we forgot to answer Steve's question: No.
>
>Off to bed for today,
>Martin
>
>And never forget:
>"just gotta help me keep the devil
>way down in the hole"
>
>
>
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: majbaermann at web.de [mailto:majbaermann at web.de]
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:34
>An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>Well, the author of the question said it frankly: "I have never seen one
>[hole] from space.Any comments?????????"
>
>Ahm, yes. Holes from/through space - must be wormholes
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhole Holes, made by worms. It's only a
>question of penetration. In any case: n o t from this world. My opinion.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Altmann"
><altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
>To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>I suppose Steve follows the path of holism.
>
>Therefore his event horizon is determined solely by the hole itself.
>
>And the only question, he's interested in, is whether the hole is
>terrestrial or not from this World.
>
>
>
>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Pete Pete [mailto:rsvp321 at hotmail.com]
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 02:01
>An: altmann at meteorite-martin.de; meteoritelist meteoritelist
>Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>
>
>
>
>Are we talking about just the holes, or the rock around the holes, too?
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------
>>From: altmann at meteorite-martin.de
>>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 01:21:13 +0200
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>>
>>Thank you Matthias,
>>
>>indeed it is the largest hole I ever found. I hope it was no mistake to
>make
>>it public. The geographic coordinates I will publish as soon as the
>>scientific work will have been done, for everyone having a fair chance to
>>hunt his own hole.
>>I plan, after classification is done, to slice the hole down.
>>First 2500 people to chime in, will get a parthole for free.
>>I'm only not sure yet, how to wrap them, for the holes not getting damaged
>>during shipping.
>>I will keep you update hourly about the distribution of the freeholes.
>>Furthermore I offer to any university, high school and rest home etc. a
>>piece of hole for free for scientific studies and educational purposes.
>>All others already can pre-order on a moderate price-per-gram-rate.
>>
>>So don't hesitate, as a famous hole said once:
>>"Holes are like money in the bank, money in the bank!!"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: majbaermann at web.de [mailto:majbaermann at web.de]
>>Gesendet: Sonntag, 23. August 2009 00:46
>>An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>>
>>Wow, Martin, I saw holes in different things - but this is a great one
>>indeed. Void, nothing else. Leeding to nothing. Impressing. But a bit
>>daemonic, no? If you'd be willing to part with it, I'd accept it as a
>>freehole. And I'd sing your praise in eternity.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Martin Altmann"
>>To:
>>Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:18 AM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>>
>>
>>>I found a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago
>>
>>Me too.
>>
>>http://kuerzer.de/terresthole
>>
>>
>>-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von steve
>>arnold
>>Gesendet: Samstag, 22. August 2009 20:16
>>An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>Betreff: [meteorite-list] holes in stone meteorites
>>
>>Hi list.Well it is nice to see that the list has quieted down.I was
>>wondering.I know that there are alot of holes in iron meteorites,but has
>>there ever been any documented evidence of holes in stone meteorites?I
>found
>>a hole thru a terrestial rock 3 years ago,but I have never seen one from
>>space.Any comments?????????
>>Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Universit? de Haute Alsace
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