[meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

From: Dave Gheesling <dave_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:34:57 -0500
Message-ID: <666EF6BB141B49169F16692AB562D0D6_at_meteorroom>

Thanks, John (and Svend). It's is great that the overwhelming majority of
respondents (most off line) get the point...
All the best,
Dave

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] March 4 RSPOD Oriented (sic) 32kg stone

Svend makes the exact point I was going to make. The picture clearly
shows that this large stone is probable a meteorite, but how can
anyone determine whether or not it is oriented by looking at one low
res picture.

I for one commend Dave for the efforts he's making to share
meteorites with young inquiring minds.

Best,

John

At 06:45 AM 3/4/2008, info at niger-meteorite-recon.de wrote:
>Elton, others,
>
>in this case, and regarding the thoroughly curated and painstakingly
>documented collection Dave keeps, I would rather trust the owner's
>judgement instead of your photo interpretation skills - however
>visionary they may be.
>
>Besides there is currently no need to defend Dave as you have not
>provided a single point why the stone pictured should not be
>oriented. You may consider this in your concept of science.
>
>just my two cents
>
>Svend
>
>
>
>
>--- Mr EMan <mstreman53 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok would someone that believes this is an accurate
> > caption please
> > defend it.
> >
> > "Sean Northover, a student at Kennesaw Mountain
> > High School,
> > confirming the weight of a fresh, ">>>ORIENTED<<<"
> > 32.6 kg
> > chondrite"???
> > <http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_4_2008.html>
> > This is too early
> > for April 1st.
> >
> > To let bad and really bad psuedoscience take over
> > all we had to do was
> > continue being silent on dubious claims. Now every
> > other meteorite we
> > see is "oriented". We know this is the truth
> > because any new commer,
> > meteorite owner, is magically, over night, an
> > "expert" at identifying
> > and describing meteorite surface features.
> >
> > If anyone wishes to declare a meteorite "oriented"--
> > anyone may do so
> > without a pittance of proof and no one on this list
> > will ever object.
> > Because we refuse to define "oriented".
> >
> > Ergo, I have a perfect sphere meteorite that fell
> > from my table to the
> > floor and under the imagination that makes EVERY
> > single meteorite
> > "oriented" I can proclaim that my sphere is oriented
> > having traveled
> > through the atmosphere. Given the wide latitude
> > used in claiming
> > orientation no one can disprove that I am not
> > correct.
> >
> > (OH YEAH and it has perfect fusion crust because
> > its drop was extended
> > for several seconds over a candle flame before
> > reaching the floor).
> >
> > I can proclaim it as a fully oriented, fully fusion
> > crusted,
> > sphere-shaped "fall" and under the unfettered
> > latitude we allow amongst
> > meteorite collectors no one can prove my description
> > wrong.
> >
> > So is this a hobby or a study of science?
> >
> > Continually Baffled,
> > Elton
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