[meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal

From: Howard Steffic <bencubbin_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:15:56 -0700
Message-ID: <BAY127-W37AC0ADE993E6989715DEEB7420_at_phx.gbl>

38 (now 39) Posts in the last 24 hours with this subject. Hell, even Chicago Steve never got this bad.

Damn, if I am not getting tired of all this crap.

Bring back Steve and restore some sanity to this list.

Howard Steffic

> From: info at mcomemeteorite.it
> To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:17:45 +0100
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal
>
> its many strange many others from USA ship to Italy and
> arrive all with no problems and you and other few no
>
> Matteo
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Da : Michael Farmer
> A : Moser Francesco , ZZ ML
> Meteorite-List
> Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to
> Italy using paypal
> Data : Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:59:46 -0800 (PST)
>
>> Francesco,
>> I am just tired of losing my money. I work hard to
>> acquire my meteorites, and doing hundreds of ebay
>> auctions a month is a full-time job. To see 40 or 50%
>> of items I send to Italy continually vanish is just no
>> longer acceptable. I do not know or care where the
>> problem it, but it is clearly on the Italian side. I
>> am not the only one with the problem, it has been
>> ongoing for years. I am simply no longer willing to
>> throw my meteorites and money away by risking shipment
>> to Italy if the meteorites are paid for via paypal.
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Moser Francesco wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All!
>>> As you know I'm Italian so I think I have the right
>>> to tell you my 2cents!
>>>
>>> 1) Naples and the rubbish (OT):
>>> Maybe most of you don't know nothing about the
>>> rubbish situations in Naples
>>> and the near cities.
>>> This is the situation:
>>>
>>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rud-B1IDo-Q&feature=related
>>>
>>
> http://images.google.it/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=it&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficial&q=napoli+immondizia&btnG=Cerca+immagini
>>> About 130.000ton of the rubbish on the streets!!!
>>> The fault is the Mafia, corrupt politicians and a
>>> lot of other people
>>> interested in the rubbish businnes.
>>> It's very humiliating that this is the image that
>>> the other countries has
>>> about Italy and about Italian people, so I write
>>> this e-mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) Italian situation (OT):
>>> As you know Italy is a long and thin country, long
>>> about 1000km from north
>>> to south.
>>> You have to know that there are HUGE and HUGE
>>> difference beetween the
>>> northern regions and the southern regions.
>>> Many people who live in the northern Italy think
>>> that the south Italy looks
>>> like Third World, like the poorest and worst African
>>> Country.
>>> Who live in south Italy look at the northern like a
>>> paradise on earth! A lot
>>> of people leave the cities in south for search a
>>> better life and work in
>>> north.
>>> I'm so angry when someone from the other country
>>> think that the Mafia is
>>> present in Italy!!! Mafia is only in the south and
>>> biggest problem of my
>>> country comes also from the southern regions!
>>> Billions of Euro every year leave the northern
>>> regions for the south Italy,
>>> for try to resolve the dramatic situation, but all
>>> this money goes in the
>>> pocket of the Mafia :(
>>> When the political class will change I hope a lot of
>>> problems will
>>> disappear!
>>>
>>> So please when you insult Italy and the Italian
>>> People for Mafia and
>>> organized crime, remember that in Italy there are 2
>>> different Italy!!!
>>> A rich and beatiful north and a poor and really
>>> problematic south!!
>>>
>>> 3) POSTAL PROBLEM:
>>> I'm so sorry to read that the post from USA to
>>> Europe (and specially to
>>> Italy) go lost in a lot of cases!
>>> In the last 2years I have sent and received a lot of
>>> packages, about 100.
>>> Only one letter sent to Germany went lost...
>>> At now the person how sent something to me have
>>> never lost anything, I have
>>> had some trouble only with a couple of letters...
>>> Actually I'm waiting for 5 meteorites...I hope they
>>> are on the way :D !!!
>>>
>>> I don't know the cause of these lost and for the
>>> huge delay, i think the
>>> situation has worsened in the last few month.
>>> I live in a little city, about 100.000 inhabitants,
>>> in august there were
>>> about 25ton of post in local postal office, nobody
>>> knows what really
>>> happened and why!
>>> 6 month ago a package took about 15days for the trip
>>> from USA, now I know I
>>> have to wait 4-6weeks.
>>> But for example Greg Hupe has sent me a box on 29.15
>>> and it was arrived on
>>> 14.01!
>>> Some month ago I send a meteorite to Boston and the
>>> trip took just 8days
>>> with the normal post, just 0.80??? of shipping
> cost!
>>> The trip of a letter from Germany took 3weeks...
>>>
>>> I don't think there is corruption of the postal
>>> service...I think it's hard
>>> to say where is the problem.
>>> I hope in the future the problem disappear so we
>>> (European and Italian)
>>> could buy from the great USA dealer without problem!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>>
>>> <><><><>
>>> Francesco Moser
>>>
>>>
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