[meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to Italy using paypal

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:34:54 +0100
Message-ID: <47903a7e.18b.3685.911937026_at_webmailh1.aruba.it>

If I remember the mafia its many present the same in USA

Matteo

----- Original Message -----
Da : "Bob Evans" <bobe5531 at comcast.net>
A : "Mirko Graul" <m_graul at yahoo.de>
Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to
Italy using paypal
Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:50:40 -0600

> Geez,
> Is there really any surprise that there is corruption in
> Italy ? Isnt that the origin of the Mafia and organized
> crime ?? Hmmmm ??
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mirko Graul" <m_graul at yahoo.de>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no longer ship to
> Italy using paypal
>
>
> Mike,
> oh,that i did not know.
> I can understand.
> Time is money.
> More time for fill out the paperwork is more time.
> Yes,that is difficult.
> Here in Germany it is easy!
> The same work and the same time for registered and not
> registered airmail.
>
> Many greetings Mirko
>
>
>
>
> --- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> schrieb:
>
> > Mirko, I simply can not send a $10.00 item via
> > registered mail, here we must fill out paperwork for
> > that, not like Germany where they only scan a lable
> > and the number is on your receipt.
> > Mike
> > --- Mirko Graul <m_graul at yahoo.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Mike and list members,
> > >
> > > when I started meteorite at ebay to sell me were
> > > also
> > > two items lost.
> > > Since that day i send only registered!
> > > Since I have more than 2000 items shipped and not
> > is
> > > lost.
> > > If a buyer wants to save shipping costs and the
> > risk
> > > loves he can not buy me.
> > > I send all pices registered worldwide.
> > > It is so easy to prevent!
> > > It is not the Post Office and the Customs trust!
> > >
> > >
> > > best wishes Mirko
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> > schrieb:
> > >
> > > > Give me a break,
> > > > Whatever, don't worry about it, Italy is off my
> > > > shipping list.
> > > > out of the last 10 chargebacks on paypal, 8 were
> > > > from
> > > > Italy, one from france, one from Germany.
> > > > That is too many losses for me, paypal refunds
> > all
> > > > their money, I am left with nothing. I will not
> > do
> > > > it
> > > > again.
> > > > Michael Farmer
> > > > --- M come Meteorite Meteorites
> > > > <info at mcomemeteorite.it> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The facts arrive, from another italian, my
> > fact
> > > is
> > > > > pass over
> > > > > 1 year with a slice of Tenham, months and
> > months
> > > > > never
> > > > > arrive and after is strangly arrive when I
> > have
> > > > > contact for
> > > > > many times Bostick...probably not have sent?
> > And
> > > > > after have
> > > > > sent immediatly but only after he have say the
> > > > > faoult is of
> > > > > the italian mail?
> > > > >
> > > > > Matteo
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > Da : "Andreas Gren" <info at meteoritenhaus.de>
> > > > > A : undisclosed-recipients at six.pairlist.net;
> > > > > Cc: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] I will no
> > longer
> > > > ship
> > > > > to
> > > > > Italy using paypal
> > > > > Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:51:18 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > > > >with Mark Bostik, and others here have
> > > problems
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >this last person with packs never arrive
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matteo,
> > > > > > Facts please
> > > > > > You know here to state statements like this
> > > mean
> > > > > you are
> > > > > > the one responsible for proof.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > Von:
> > > meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> > > > > Im
> > > > > > Auftrag von M come Meteorite Meteorites
> > > > > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2008 21:24
> > > > > > An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] I will no
> > longer
> > > > > ship to
> > > > > > Italy using paypal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bah...I receive every day packs from outside
> > > > Italy
> > > > > and
> > > > > > from USA with value declared and no and any
> > of
> > > > > this go
> > > > > > lost, only in 2 cases here the pack is never
> > > > > arrive, one
> > > > > > with Cottingham why not have sent via
> > > registered
> > > > > letter
> > > > > > and another with Mark Bostik, and others
> > here
> > > > have
> > > > > > problems with this last person with packs
> > > never
> > > > > arrive
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matteo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > Da : Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > A : meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > > > > > Oggetto : [meteorite-list] I will no longer
> > > ship
> > > > > to Italy
> > > > > > using paypal
> > > > > > Data : Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:09:14 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > List members, I don't know about others,
> > but
> > > > > myself
> > > > > > > and Robert Ward have both been ripped off
> > by
> > > > > > > paypal/Italian buyers lately.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the last few months, I have had 5 ebay
> > > > items
> > > > > lost
> > > > > > > on the way to Italy and claims filed,
> > where
> > > > > paypal
> > > > > > > took my money automatically.
> > > > > > > I will no longer ship anything to Italy
> > > using
> > > > > paypal,
> > > > > > > any orders from Italy must be paid for
> > with
> > > > cash
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > international postal money order. Then I
> > > will
> > > > > ship, so
> > > > > > > that if the items are stolen by corrupt
> > > > Italian
> > > > > postal
> > > > > > > workers, that is not my problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This has become so common, that either all
> > > > > packages to
> > > > > > > Italy are stolen, or Italian ebay buyers
> > are
> > > > on
> > > > > to the
> > > > > > > paypal scam and get the items, then claim
> > > > > refunds.
> > > > > > > Anyone else having this problem lately?
> > > > > > > Michael Farmer
> > > > > > >
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