[meteorite-list] Carancas crater

From: Barry Davis <bed_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:09:41 -0500
Message-ID: <000601c87b0f$04d56940$1f02a8c0_at_barry>

It doesn't matter to me what it is called. I'm just glad I bought a piece
from Michael Farmer. Being new to meteorites, this is my first one. I have
bought a few since, but I'm proud to have a Carancas for my first. ( you
know there are a few "firsts" in life that you NEVER FORGET.)
Thanks Michael
Barry Davis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
To: "Tim Heitz" <midwest at meteorman.org>; "Meteorite List"
<Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater


> Tim, it is somewhere in the 10 kilo range, giv or take
> a kilo. Of the 10 kilos I know of, about 6 kilograms
> was fine dust in baggies. Hans Koser has this
> material, he was trying to sell it at the Tucson show.
> Moritz Karl and I bought the other ~3 kilos he had,
> and most of that is sold now. I have less than 400
> grams of material left for sale. Calr Esparza in
> Tucson got around 1.4 kilo with Bob Haag, I bought all
> of Bob's share from him.
> There is about a kilo in a museum in La Paz, Bolivia.
> So around 12 kilos is my estimate of total material
> recovered.
> Michael Farmer
> --- Tim Heitz <midwest at meteorman.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Has any one ever determined how much of was
>> recovered?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites at yahoo.com>; "Adam"
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Carancas crater
>>
>>
>> > Adam
>> > You told everyone on this list that Carancas was
>> not a
>> > crater, you have been proven wrong, I was proven
>> right
>> > with the papers in the news this week, I am merely
>> > clarifying that, nothing more.
>> > Now, what problem is it of mine that uneducated
>> idiots
>> > pissed in the crater? Does that ruin the event,
>> make
>> > it useless, wipe it from the history books? It was
>> > handled fine on my end, things just got bad when
>> > police tried to steal all of our money. What is
>> your
>> > advice, should I have gone to the president of
>> Peru?
>> > When you are in the crap, you make decisions on
>> the
>> > spot, it is not as easy as sitting at your desk
>> and
>> > typing emails. The locals were nice, just poor
>> people
>> > who had no idea what was going on, the government
>> was
>> > inept and corrupt, and the police took advantage
>> of
>> > the situation to try and rob us, then the
>> proverbial
>> > crap hit the fan from all sides. Oh well, the
>> crater
>> > was studied, a tiny amount of the meteorite was
>> saved,
>> > and the rest, as they say, it history.
>> > Michael Farmer
>> > --- Adam Hupe <raremeteorites at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mike and List,
>> >>
>> >> I conceded the point long ago that the term
>> crater
>> >> also applies to the Carancas event. I also
>> stated
>> >> that there are different types of craters and
>> this
>> >> one
>> >> falls into the impact pit category as was the
>> case
>> >> with the Sikhote Alin event. Some of the craters
>> >> (impact pits) left by Sikhote Alin were also
>> >> explosive
>> >> embedding pieces of the meteorite in trees and
>> yet
>> >> Ninninger, along with dozens of scientists
>> referred
>> >> to
>> >> them as impact pits. I admit the definition is
>> >> somewhat hazy is why I qualified the term with
>> "To
>> >> me,"
>> >>
>> >> My only problem with the Carancas thing is that
>> was
>> >> over-hyped from the beginning with much
>> >> misinformation
>> >> surrounding it. Then, no respect was given to the
>> >> occurrence and a circus soon followed. People
>> will
>> >> treat you the way you allow them, the same
>> applies
>> >> to
>> >> the Carancas event. Trash was thrown into the
>> >> impact
>> >> pit, people relieved themselves into it and greed
>> >> soon
>> >> became a problem. I think if the event was
>> handled
>> >> in
>> >> a more professional matter, I would not have a
>> >> problem
>> >> with it. The way it stands, I have zero respect
>> for
>> >> the way it was handled.
>> >>
>> >> The last from me on this,
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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