[meteorite-list] Ruben Garcia reports: "Glorieta, not hunting allo wed..."

From: Mike Miller <meteoritefinder_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 16:29:22 -0700
Message-ID: <468bf6050808081629g673afc65if621f63587e989bc_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hi Steve I am guessing you are referring to me in this post

"Trashing the land with ATV's? I think that recent photos reveals at
least one that has done it rather blantantly."

 Now if you have a little time and read my story of finding the main
mass you would know that the quad was not involved in the hunt it was
only involved in the recovery. I am sure you with your amazing ability
to hunt while hovering above the ground as to not disturb anything is
quite unique and I am sure no one but you could have harnessed the
power of a flock of spotted owls to safely fly out a 300 pound iron. I
on the other hand did use a quad to to get this 300 pounder out I was
just not smart enough to figure out another way. I rode into the area
using roads designed for cars and cut by bulldozers (little late to
worry about ruining the landscape with my quad tracks) then to within
150 yards using an old wagon trail, then the trail disapeared.

Oh yea Steve I did bury the hole and you wont find any trash in the
area either, weather it was mine or not I carry it back out with me.
So yes I have ridden a quad in the mountains north of Santa Fe New
Mexico, but I take offense that just because I was there that you
assume it was me doing the damage. Steve you have actually hunted the
Glorieta with me do you recall following me around and picking up my
empty water bottles? Or was I destroying anything with my quad when
you actually saw me there? Please keep your opinion to your self
unless you know and have seen me doing something wrong.



On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Steve Schoner <schoner at mybluelight.com> wrote:
> Ruben,
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> I am not mad at you or anyone in particular, however-- I am very sad at the situation as it now stands.
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> Now as for you and land owners... I know that there are land owners quite upset with you...
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> Need I name them?
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> I am sure that you know who they are.
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> So, I leave that to your conscience.
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> Trashing the land with ATV's? I think that recent photos reveals at least one that has done it rather blantantly.
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> Steve Schoner
> IMCA 4470
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> -- Ruben Garcia <meteoritemall at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey Steve,
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> You sound upset at me, though I'm not sure why. I had full permission from land owners for all of the above - Cash and Treasures, my videos, articles etc..- The and owners even allowed me to stay in their cabin while there. Does that sound like I trashed their area? I've never hunted on Federal property, I've covered all of my holes and never taken a quad to glorieta. So who are you talking about?
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> Through the years we (meaning all successful hunters) have inspired others to become meteorite hunters. You inspired some yourself, including me! It happens. Did you think glorieta would be there for you and only you to hunt?
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> I'm sorry it is shut down! But not for myself, I'm sorry for the land owners who got the shaft. I've spoken to them and they are not mad a me, but because of pressure from others they had to stop hunting all together. They were very good to all of us!
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> Ruben Garcia
> Phoenix, Arizona
> http://www.mr-meteorite.com
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v
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Received on Fri 08 Aug 2008 07:29:22 PM PDT