[meteorite-list] Zulu Queen, MCcartney Taylor etc

From: Jason Utas <meteoritekid_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:35:55 -0700
Message-ID: <93aaac890804161735u741ce13dl96b345c58ff92032_at_mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pete,
I admit that it does sound as though he (McCartney) is in the right,
but all the same...there's a reason they give people the benefit of
the doubt in court, and I see no reason why we should condemn someone
(in this case, Bob) when there is still a chance that he may be
innocent.
The way I see it, if we know more, we can resolve this to a greater
degree, and come to a more conclusive decision as a group than we
would otherwise. The trouble in the past has been, in my opinion,
that people get caught up in the
- he cheated me
-- no, he cheated me
argument that too little evidence comes out and others never see what
was actually done. I think it's high time we started making it clear
as a community that such actions will -not- be accepted, at all.
I believe that this should be resolved with such certainty that the
wrongdoer be banned from the IMCA, banned from the list, kept from
being accepted by all and any within the 'world of meteorites' by
those who are truly a part of it, because there should be no place in
such a hobby for one who lies, cheats, or steals.
Especially when -we- have the power to make this such a safe place.
Or am I wrong?
Regards,
Jason

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Pete Pete <rsvp321 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jason wrote: "And if you, McCartney, do want to prove your case to the rest ofus, this would be a good time to do so as well."
>
> If anyone is going to take votes, as far as I'm concerned their case is already proven in a *legitimate* court, and McCartney doesn't have to keep proving it to this motley crew ;).
>
> Cheers,
> Pete
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:13:36 -0700
> > From: meteoritekid at gmail.com
> > To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Zulu Queen, MCcartney Taylor etc
> >
> > Hello Bob, McCartney, All,
> > I think that the trouble, Bob, is that McCartney has been supplying us
> > with more details than you have, and they do point towards your guilt.
> > Apparently there was a case filed against you, and you knew about it
> > - but didn't respond to the court order to argue against it. That
> > makes you sound pretty guilty...
> > To be perfectly frank, I, for one, would like to know the details of
> > the trade and come to my own conclusions; would both of you be willing
> > to disclose the details of the trade and following disagreement?
> > Who sent who what meteorite, how much did each specimen weigh, etc.?
> > If you do want to prove your innocence, that would be the best way,
> > Bob. And if you, McCartney, do want to prove your case to the rest of
> > us, this would be a good time to do so as well.
> > I'm not entirely sure if anyone else is interested in hearing the rest
> > of this, but I think that the list is as good a forum as any for
> > proving a dealer's innocence or guilt in a situation, whatever the
> > case may be, because this does have an effect on the rest of us,
> > collectors and dealers alike. I, for one, wouldn't want to deal with
> > a dishonest dealer, whatever the case may be.
> > Regards,
> > Jason
> >
>
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Bob Evans wrote:
> >> Hey Mike,
> >>
> >> Thanks for causing alot of problems for me.
> >> Did it ever occur to you that I wasnt willing to give you my sources name
> >> because I was in the process of trying to obtain more meteorites,
> >> and I didnt need to compete with everybody else, including you ?
> >> Why dont you try asking Mike Farmer or the Hupes for the Moroccan names and
> >> phone #s. Good luck.
> >> Everything I ever sold you was up front nothing to hide. Now you come along
> >> with this.
> >> Why dont you send it to an accredited lab and see what they have to say
> >> instead of attacking me.
> >> Thats also pretty lame of you seeing as I told you that Im dealing with a
> >> parent who is in the hospital with blood clots in her lungs and I would deal
> >> with you later.
> >>
> >> Just so everyone should know. I have asked atleast one other dealer ( who
> >> sells many rare items on ebay ) for information on their supplier or
> >> provenance to just have my numerous inquiries go unanswered. So, why am I
> >> being singled out ?
> >>
> >> As far as jackass MCcartney Taylor , I gave the idiot planetary and
> >> achondrite for his chondrite and the moron sued me. Oh, he lied about not
> >> receiving my meteorites in court. How do you like that IMCA ?
> >>
> >> Mike, dont bother emailing back. I dont have anything else to say to you.
> >> Email the list though, they love this shit.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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