[meteorite-list] WG: meteorites not being able to leave certaincountries

From: Martin Altmann <altmann_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:37:47 +0200
Message-ID: <00d501c89db7$00ac5890$177f2a59_at_name86d88d87e2>

My question wasn't meant polemically.
I wanted to know, what for a difference it makes for countries like Libya,
Algeria, Egypt, when less meteorites are in the desert than before.

We read so often, from a damage, which happens, when meteorites are taken
from a country where they felt on. But we never read, WHAT for a damage.

So?

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Armando Afonso [mailto:armandoafonso at oniduo.pt]
Gesendet: Montag, 14. April 2008 00:14
An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] WG: meteorites not being able to leave
certaincountries

This is more or less when our dear M. F. enters in action...
Is he sleeping, or what ?
Armando

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Altmann" <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
To: <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:29 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] WG: meteorites not being able to leave
certaincountries


Hi John,

How high would you estimate is the damage NWA countries suffered from
meteorites having removed and of which kind is that damage?

Best!
Martin

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
JKGwilliam
Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. April 2008 18:33
An: steve arnold; meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites not being able to leave certain
countries

Some counties, fortunately, decided (before it was too late) they
needed to protect items they considered an important part of their
culture, heritage, natural resources, etc. We are all very sadly
aware what happens when there are no rules. It is the nature of
humans to overuse, over kill and commercially exploit anything they
can get their hands on. NWA and Oman are good examples of what
happens when there are no export rules concerning meteorites.

On the American scene, the American Bison (buffalo) and Carrier
Pidgeon are two good examples of what I'm talking about. How many
buffaloes or birds do you really need to kill?

There are ways for people to procure meteorites (and fossils, plants,
birds,etc) from countries where tight regulations exist. Dedicated
scientist and institutions with programs of proper study and
preservation should have no problem securing those hard-to-get
meteorites they want. However, if the desire to possess said
meteorites is motivated by vanity, greed or purely commercial
purposes, the regulations are there to intercede.

  If you (Ssteve) had a rare flower growing on your property that
collectors could get nowhere else, would you allow anyone who wanted
them to dig them up without your approval? What a pity it would be
to see these rare (hypothetical )flowers show up on Ebay starting at
JUST ONE CENT. In short order, your plants would all be gone, forever.

Regards,
John Gwilliam

At 06:41 AM 4/13/2008, steve arnold wrote:
>Good morning list.I want to start a new thread on
>something,that to me is a real steamer,that makes me a
>really upset,as to why certain countries prevent
>meteorites from being able to leave without proper
>papers.You have Australia,Canada,Oman,and now
>Argentina.If there are more I do not of them.I really
>want to know the reasoning behind such mind sets.We
>all live on the same planet,why deny everyone a chance
>to own a piece of the cosmic puzzle that we all love
>to collect?Any thought??When I read that countries are
>now going to keep them under lock and key it just does
>not make any sence.
>
>Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
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