[meteorite-list] The Bob Evans Lawsuit

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <809455.76625.qm_at_web30708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi McCartney,

I do not care for the phrase you used "NWA junk" No
real meteorite is junk. I could care less where a
meteorite lands as long as it was legally obtained. I
am a sample person, along with hundreds of other
collectors who collect by type including NASA ans many
instatutions. My main concern is that all samples be
laboratory confirmed as to its rarity by type, not
where or when it fell.

My problem with Bob Evans stemmed from his
self-proclaimed pairings and stolen descriptions. I
argued continually with him and Stan for several
months and it seemed very few cared. Now, lab work is
greatly appreciated and reputable dealers would never
dream of borrowing others numbers and descriptions.

As far as rare or historical falls are concerned, I
generally avoid them as I have been taken for several
thousand on such deals. Kapoeta, in particular sold
to me by a well-known and respected dealer at the time
now stands out. This left an indelible scare on my
mind. It changed my habits and turned me into a type
collector instead of accumulating historical material.


Please do not call any meteorite "Junk" as I find it
disrespectful.

Adam







Cartney Taylor <mccartney at blackbearddata.com> wrote:

> Yes, there was a lawsuit against Bob Evans brought
> by me. It was in regards to a trade that was
> partially done, where I sent material and only
> received a partial trade, then Evans went quiet. No
> contact for many months. Eventually, I posted about
> it and received many replies that he has done this
> before. His modus operandi is usually to go quiet
> and not communicate. Which is what he's doing now.
>
> He did not show in court, I received a default
> judgment by the judge. Evans did not appeal and a
> judgment was issued. I spent the money to have the
> judgment filed in Illinois and a lien filed against
> his house. At this time he can not purchase or
> sell, or inherit real property until the judgment is
> paid. It is collecting 8% interest at this time.
>
> If I recall my contract law correctly, selling NWA
> junk as Zulu Queen would be 'Misrepresentation' as
> well as Unjust Enrichment. Selling Zulu Queen that
> he didn't know was NWA junk is simply 'Mutual
> Misunderstanding'. Good luck in proving he had
> prior knowledge it was NWA junk.
>
> This is a small sandbox we play in. Play nice.
>
> -mt
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: AL Mitterling <almitt at kconline.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:36 PM
> > To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ?
> OK ?
> >
> > Greetings List Members,
> >
> > On June 24th 2004 there were some claims made
> against the person in
> > question. Apparently there was a lawsuit against
> this seller. I have
> > stayed clear of him ever since, though I never
> dealt with him. I suggest
> > people look up the archives and do their own
> reading and decide for
> > themselves. It may be the issue was resolved but I
> guess my feeling is
> > how it got to that point in the first place. Best!
> >
> > --AL Mitterling
> >
>
>
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Received on Sat 12 Apr 2008 02:34:43 PM PDT