[meteorite-list] New, long, Carancas article II
From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:44:56 -0500 Message-ID: <064801c896e8$8fec0d50$8250e146_at_ATARIENGINE> Hi, A hypersonic shock front, or "bow-wave," has strong boundary properties; it doesn't transmit heat well. True, it can heat a meteorite up hot enough to melt rock, but that's only 2200 degrees, while the plasma just one centimeter in front of the rock is 8000 degrees (or 14,000 or 30,000, depending on speed, mass, etc.) So, really not much heat is being leaked. Really, it's only being radiated. What Schultz is counting on is the fact that the shock wave is bent back along an elongated object but never gets close enough to the sides to heat them. Picture a space capsule, like the Mercury one. The shielding is all on the blunt front; the sides (which taper in) are just plain lightweight metal. The sides never even got scorched in that fiery re-entry! So, the front of a long shape meets the air "head-on," takes all the heat and ablation, while the plasma streams backward, angled slightly away from the sides. In the "Schultz" model, the shock wave encloses a train of fragments all jammed up against the shock front and held together longitudinally by deceleration and transversely by shock compression. In the "Webb" model, the meteoroid is just a big old long rock, but its long sides don't get ablated either, by the same mechanism. In both versions, only the front gets ablated. It's obvious to me from the shock features of Carancas that this is a stone that has been hammered very hard in several points in its life history. It is the remains of some larger object that was really whacked hard. Violent impacts produce more irregular fragments than gentle impacts. It doesn't seem a stretch that the Carancas meteoroid would have an irregular shape, like a long "splinter" of rock. What do we know about the shape of meteoroids before they enter the atmosphere? Simple. Next to nothing. Is everything in the universe a soccer ball? No. There is this paper that claims that a mathematical analysis of the distribution of sizes of fragments found in a meteorite fall can reveal such details as the number of breakups the object went through or if the shape of the original body deviated from the spherical. (This used to be free access...) http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/0295-5075/43/5/598/node4.html by L. Oddershede (Technical University of Denmark ), A. Meibom (University of Odense, Denmark ) and J. Bohr (Hawai'i Institute of Geophysics and Planetology, University of Hawai'i at Manoa). They studied a number of strewnfields and found some to be the result of a single fragmentation event and some to be the result of multiple fragmentations. The equations also imply the original shape. The Mbale Object (they say) was almost spherical while the original Sikhote-Alin meteoroid was a long cylinder at least 3-4 times longer than wide: a big iron splinter. I think (based on modeling speeds) Carancas was 4-5 times longer than wide. Carancas has a tendency to fracture along the dark shock veins (or slickensides, if that's what they are). Any rock that has a preferred cleavage, for whatever reason, is unlikely to have been broken into a sphere. I wish somebody would try to isotopically date the shock features of Carancas. I bet it has a history... Sterling K. Webb -------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <star-bits at tx.rr.com> To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>; <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New, long, Carancas article II It would seem to me that if the stone fragmented in flight and was contained by the shock wave it would still be heated by the plasma and all the fragments would develop crusts. There appear to be some pieces with crust, but enought to match Schultz's theory? ---- "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net> wrote: Schultz and I both agree that a greater aerodynamic efficiency will get a chondrite to the ground faster with less loss of material, making an impact like Carancas possible. What Schultz proposes is that the fragile material of Carancas fragmented early on but did not "pancake" out and cause an airburst, but was wrapped by the shock wave around the hypersonic meteoroid into a "bullet" shape that stayed together and kept its high speed to the ground. .... What I proposed was that the Carancas impactor was an elongated fragment to begin with. That is, it was a "sliver" of asteroid that was 4 or 5 times longer than its width when it entered the Earth's atmosphere. The results would be the same: a faster trip to the ground in (mostly) one piece. ______________________________________________ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Received on Sat 05 Apr 2008 02:44:56 AM PDT |
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