[meteorite-list] AL HAGGOUNIA 001 ("NOT" AUBRITE)

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:16:01 +0100
Message-ID: <474e5921.33c.5ff.343579949_at_webmailh5.aruba.it>

I have analysis of laboratory show this material is Aubrite,
and not EL3 some persons continue to say, in my laboratory I
have in analysis this Aubrite and a piece of the EL3 all
say, the 2 analysis its totaly different! For me this
material IS aubrite. STOP

Matteo


----- Original Message -----
Da : "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe at htn.net>
A : "meteoriteshow"
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Oggetto : AL HAGGOUNIA 001 ("NOT" AUBRITE)
Data : Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:27:39 -0500

> Dear Frederic, Matteo and List Members,
>
> "Al Haggounia 001"(NWA 4420), NWA 2828 and the other
> Fossil EL3's are NOT, I repeat, NOT aubrites. I wish they
> were, I have many, many kilos of NWA 2828. At first when
> just the type sample was tested, it came back as an
> aubrite, no chondrules were found. After cutting more of
> the NWA 2828 material I had, I began to find these funny
> round things and I thought, "Oh no, these are chondrules,
> this can not be an aubrite". I then sent more sample
> material in to have tested and sure enough, they WERE
> chondrules. Unfortunately I had not cut the material for
> sale until the classification and abstract were approved.
> After the chondrules were found and confirmed by several
> US scientists, a revised classification and abstract were
> submitted. The abstract was approved, see here:
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K but the
> NWA 2828 classification was not changed by the
> Meteoritical Society in the bulletin (not sure why this
> is, any one out there who can address this?).
>
> The classifying scientist who studied NWA 4420 "Al
> Haggounia", Dr. Jambon, refused scientific data
> supporting the EL3 classification from the US scientists
> and classified the sample he had as an aubrite. This
> material IS THE SAME AS NWA 2828, the now infamous EL3
> Fossil (Paleo) meteorite! I do not know if "Al
> Haggnounia" is trying to be wished into being an aubrite,
> but IT IS NOT!!! Those who have sent Dr. Jambon sample
> material need to send him and other scientists more
> samples that show the true makeup of this meteorite. In
> other words, send samples with those funny round things so
> the classification can be made correctly. When new data
> and evidence is presented, it is up to the dealers AND
> the scientists to do the right thing.
>
> To error is OK as long as a correction is made as in the
> case of NWA 2828, hence the title of the revised abstract
> , "EL3 Chondrite (not Aubrite) Northwest Africa 2828: An
> Unusual Paleo-meteorite Occurring as Cobbles in a
> Terrestrial Conglomerate". See here:
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.P51E1247K
>
> I wish NWA 2828 was an aubrite, but an EL3 Fossil
> meteorite is pretty cool too. Anyone want an excellent
> deal on some nice and clean NWA 2828 stones?
>
> Respectfully,
> Greg
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "meteoriteshow" <meteoriteshow at free.fr>
> To: "Meteorite List Meteoritecentral"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Wednesday,
> November 28, 2007 9:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD -
> AL HAGGOUNIA 001 (AUBRITE)
>
>
> > Dear Listees,
> >
> > Sorry, the links where cut in my previous post.
> > So please just find them (I hope this time uncut)
> hereunder: >
> > 1/ Al Haggounia 001 / Meteoritical Society:
> >
>
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?sfor=names&categ=Aubrites&mblist=92
> >
> > 2/ Al Haggounia 001 for sale on Meteoriteshow web site:
> >
>
http://meteoriteshow.free.fr/meteoriteshow%20fra/pages%20navigation/pieces_en_vente-fra.htm#NWA4420
> >
> >
> >
> > kind regards,
> >
> > Frederic Beroud
> > IMCA #2491
> > www.meteoriteshow.com
> >
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Received on Thu 29 Nov 2007 01:16:01 AM PST