[meteorite-list] meteorite coins and other ridiculous wastes oftime

From: Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:04:09 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <297983.31695.qm_at_web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Actually you insulted everyone on this list, calling
dealers "pirates" again. Of course you have a right to
your opinion as does everyone else, but when you start
calling names, then your opinion no longer matters.
since you have used the term "pirate" to directly
impugn myself, and the post was resulting from my
objects, let me see, hmmmm, perhaps I should conclude
that as usual, you are speaking about me? 90% of them
time the only posts you make are directed at
belittling me, you respond only to my posts or to
someone else about me. You do not respond to other
people's subject, you do not trash other people's
meteorite objects, meteorite expeditions, or anything
else, only things to do with Michael Farmer
I am sick of it, as I have told you quite publicly
many times. Yet you keep coming. Why?
Michael Farmer
--- Armando Afonso <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt> wrote:

> Dear Mike,
> I only agreed with a previously posted topic. I am
> not alone in this
> position, then.
> Further to that, I didn?t address or refer myself
> directly to anyone.
> But I should know by now that it is impossible to
> express anything in this
> list (a club of sellers, actually) without this
> result.
> That is true.
> I abominate the little sculptures and other
> artifacts made from meteorites,
> devaluated oiled and "cleaned" specimens.
> I hate the so-called micros of 1 mg, too.
> They have no value as specimens, honestly.
> That was my message.Only that.
> I know, that is your business, but you have no
> reason to jump on me again.
> Warm regards
> AA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> To: "Armando Afonso" <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt>;
> "Martin Altmann"
> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; "'Thaddeus Besedin'"
> <endophasy at yahoo.com>;
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and
> other ridiculous wastes
> oftime
>
>
> > My god Armando,
> > We are not talking about Mars rock here, we are
> > talking about Campo del Cielo, a meteorite with
> > HUNDREDS, actually THOUSANDS of TONS of material.
> Now,
> > I do not break up Campo to make the coins, I buy
> the
> > shredded and tumbled scraps from people who do cut
> > them up, they are the large crystals which
> actually
> > fall apart when the meteorite is cut/smashed
> apart.
> > They are pretty much useless since most weigh 1
> gram
> > or less. So I found a unique usage for them, and
> > people can enjoy a tiny piece of meteorite with
> > information on the coin, rather than in a plastic
> > baggie.
> > Give me a break Armando, this is getting old, grow
> up
> > and if you do not like what I am doing, keep it to
> > yourself, or buy up all the Campo on the market.
> > Michael Farmer
> > --- Armando Afonso <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry Mike.
> >> I am back OK, but in compensation, you are here
> all
> >> the time.
> >> I forget all the time how sensitive you are...
> >> Yes, it is ridiculous to make coins, frogs and
> >> Mickey mouses from
> >> meteorites.
> >> This materials deserve a bit more respect than
> that.
> >> Ridiculous too, is to reduce interesting
> meteorites
> >> to dust, only to be
> >> abble of selling them (in little bags of 1mg) to
> >> children. A piece of Mars,
> >> wow!
> >> I dont think that this is a service to science.
> >> To collect this things is acceptable, but the
> >> specimen value should be
> >> preserved.
> >> This are rocks, so the texture and structural
> >> features should be visible in
> >> the smallest specimens, or their pedagogic value
> is
> >> reduced to zero.
> >> The chemical composition should be preserved.
> >> Engine oil, acrylic resin substituting olivine do
> >> not comply with my
> >> definition of cosmic material.
> >> If the concern is the conservation of the
> >> meteorites, they should be
> >> de-hidrated and stored in inert gases, maybe in
> nice
> >> glass containers, why
> >> not?
> >> Please excuse me again.
> >> Warm regards.
> >> AA
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "Armando Afonso" <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt>;
> >> "Martin Altmann"
> >> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>; "'Thaddeus
> Besedin'"
> >> <endophasy at yahoo.com>;
> >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and
> >> other ridiculous wastes
> >> oftime
> >>
> >>
> >> > Armando is back, I knew it would not take long
> for
> >> him
> >> > to start calling people names again.
> >> > Michael Farmer
> >> > --- Armando Afonso <armandoafonso at oniduo.pt>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Martin.
> >> >> You are nearly to be erradicated from the
> list,
> >> >> acused of beeing a
> >> >> comunist...
> >> >> Each time I spoke against this and others
> >> >> "scientific" uses of meteorites I
> >> >> was insulted by the pirates.
> >> >> I warned you.
> >> >> AA
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Martin Altmann"
> >> <altmann at meteorite-martin.de>
> >> >> To: "'Thaddeus Besedin'"
> <endophasy at yahoo.com>;
> >> >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> >> >> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:44 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins
> and
> >> >> other ridiculous wastes
> >> >> oftime
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Thaddeus,
> >> >>
> >> >> what are your suggestions to improve those
> >> >> circumstances?
> >> >>
> >> >> For me personally, it would be interesting,
> how
> >> many
> >> >> of the list members
> >> >> opine, that meteorites shouldn't be objects of
> >> >> commerce.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can somebody set up a poll?
> >> >>
> >> >> Martin
> >> >>
> >> >> ________________________________________
> >> >> Von:
> meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
> >> >>
> >>
> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
> >> >> Im Auftrag von Thaddeus
> >> >> Besedin
> >> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. M?rz 2007 07:38
> >> >> An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >> >> Betreff: [meteorite-list] meteorite coins and
> >> other
> >> >> ridiculous wastes of
> >> >> time
> >> >>
> >> >> List,
> >> >> Do we need Franklin Mint-esque coins to hype
> the
> >> >> insuperable wonder of
> >> >> actual meteoritic material free of
> made-to-order
> >> >> home shopping network (no
> >> >> trademark) gimmick?
> >> >> These rank amongst the greatest achievements
> of
> >> Mike
> >> >> Farmer, capitalist of
> >> >> little self-control and imagination. Give us
> >> rocks,
> >> >> and that's it: you sell
> >> >> rocks. Collectors can become humorously
> obsessive
> >> >> when all reference to our
> >> >> target interests are accepted. Coins will
> >> distract
> >> >> from oxidation,
>
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Received on Sat 31 Mar 2007 01:04:09 PM PDT