[meteorite-list] Mr. Kramskoi & Meteorite Offers from Russia

From: Dave Freeman mjwy <dfreeman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:27:51 -0600
Message-ID: <45FEC817.8020804_at_fascination.com>

Make sure Matteo understands that he pays the shipping up front before
you will ship!
Great laugh,
Dave F.

Michael Farmer wrote:

>http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/car.jpg
>
>Matteo, here is a photo of a Ferrari I have for sale.
>Send me 500 Euros, then I will send you a contract for
>purchase and shipping details.
>I am selling this car for charity for little starving
>children.
>See how easy that is?
>Michael Farmer
>
>
>
>
>
>>-- M come Meteorite Meteorites
>><mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I doubt a nigerian scam continue to send you
>>>
>>>
>>emails
>>
>>
>>>with photos etc....and is not real this person ask
>>>immediatly $800 of contract, I have sent 100 euro
>>>and
>>>now I want seen what arrive
>>>
>>>Matteo
>>>
>>>--- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> ha
>>>scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Geoff, this is another form of Nigerian scam.
>>>>
>>>>
>>They
>>
>>
>>>>are
>>>>now getting on ebay, finding items that sell,
>>>>learning
>>>>about them, then ripping people off who are
>>>>
>>>>
>>>gullible
>>>
>>>
>>>>enough to send money to people they do not know.
>>>>This
>>>>has been on the news lately.
>>>>These guys plan to take your $800.00 then you
>>>>
>>>>
>>will
>>
>>
>>>>never hear from them again. The same people are
>>>>likely
>>>>sending the same emails to people for coins,
>>>>fossils,
>>>>and anything else of value from Russia that
>>>>
>>>>
>>people
>>
>>
>>>>might actually want to buy.
>>>>Buy from people you know, or suffer the
>>>>consequences.
>>>>Michael Farmer
>>>>--- Notkin <geoking at notkin.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dear Listees:
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you to those of you who replied off-List
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>post inquiring
>>>>>about a Mr. Kramskoi.
>>>>>
>>>>>The following information may be of interest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>any List members who
>>>>>have received a recent offer from Russia about
>>>>>meteorites for sale:
>>>>>
>>>>>1) A significant number meteorite dealers and
>>>>>collectors, around the
>>>>>world, have been contacted by email by a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>person
>>
>>
>>>>>representing himself as
>>>>>Mr. Aleksandr Kramskoi supposedly of Kramskoi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Law
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Firm in Moscow. He
>>>>>states he is selling meteorite specimens in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>order
>>>
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>raise funds for
>>>>>the Kanatnaya Doroga Charity Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>(supposedly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>an orphanage) in
>>>>>Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>>2) Mr. Kramskoi has offered for sale Lunar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>specimens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>from the Russian
>>>>>Luna missions, and some very attractive
>>>>>Sikhote-Alins, apparently from
>>>>>an old collection. He has emailed photos of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>these
>>>
>>>
>>>>>specimens to numerous
>>>>>people. Mr. Kramskoi offered to send me 4.5 kg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Sikhote-Alins, "so
>>>>>you can inspect it carefully and give a fair
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>price
>>>
>>>
>>>>>for these items."
>>>>>Once I agreed to receive the specimens for
>>>>>inspection, he then emailed
>>>>>me an elaborate contract and asked for $800 in
>>>>>advance as a "contract
>>>>>fee."
>>>>>
>>>>>3) Mr. Kramskoi stated that after receiving
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>$800
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>from me, he would
>>>>>ship the Sikhote-Alins by UPS or Fedex and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>>upon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>receipt I would
>>>>>have 180 days to pay the balance. I found the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>length
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>of time allowed
>>>>>for payment to be suspicious.
>>>>>
>>>>>4) A well-respected List member, and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>professional
>>>
>>>
>>>>>colleague of mine in
>>>>>Europe, was offered the same pieces and the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>same
>>
>>
>>>>>contract, at the same
>>>>>time, though for a different price.
>>>>>
>>>>>5) My colleague has a reliable friend in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>Russia
>>
>>
>>>>who
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>has established
>>>>>that the address provided by Mr. Kramskoi for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>his
>>>
>>>
>>>>>law office does not
>>>>>exist.
>>>>>
>>>>>6) My colleague and I both declined to enter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>into
>>>
>>>
>>>>>any form of
>>>>>transaction with Mr. Kramskoi, and I post this
>>>>>information so anyone
>>>>>else who is thinking of doing business with
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>him
>>
>>
>>>>will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>be able to form
>>>>>their own conclusions before sending any money
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Russia.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone wanting more detailed information,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>please
>>
>>
>>>>>contact me off-List. I
>>>>>can tell you about another great offer I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>received
>>>
>>>
>>>>>from Nigeria : )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>>Geoff N.
>>>>>www.aerolite.org
>>>>>
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>>>Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA,
>>>ITALY
>>>Email: mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it
>>>Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
>>>Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
>>>MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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