[meteorite-list] WG: Global Warming - etc

From: Allan Treiman <treiman_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:11:07 -0500
Message-ID: <E6657AD7-FF04-4902-8F5B-D661BD6F52AB_at_lpi.usra.edu>

Burning ice??? Is that in the Bible?
Could they have found some methane clathrate?

    aht

Allan Treiman
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On Jun 11, 2007, at 3:41 PM, Michael L Blood wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> Actually, many meteorites are reported to have killed
> people....
> but none I know of that are available or close to having a solid
> provenience. One was discussed at length on the list just a couple
> of months ago - some Roman officer and a bunch of his men. I
> believe the Bible has more than one incident reported as well.
> Hell, I would like to have one of the frogs in formaldehyde from
> the 7 plagues of Egypt, not to mention the burning ice.
> A documented KILLER meteorite? I would buy all I could!
> (By the way, Dr. Deits, one of the first to propose
> "continental
> drift" in the early 1900s was quoted as saying he wanted to die
> being struck by a meteorite, then fossilized and recovered by future
> generations).
> Best wishes, Michael
>
> on 6/11/07 1:09 PM, Martin Altmann at altmann at meteorite-martin.de
> wrote:
>
>> Forwarded from Andi Gren, who doesn't come through neither
>> (well Andi, at least I would pay a good price for that L6, if it
>> will hit a
>> certain person in Illinois...just a joke):
>>
>>
>> Hi Tim , List , all involved in this interesting treat,
>>
>> Your suggestion about the Asteroid wiping out half of the planet
>> and then be
>> sold on e bay brings me back to Meteorites.
>> When I have seen the first time a picture from the Lady hit by the
>> Sylacauga Meteorite, I was happy to know it's not reported a
>> Meteorite ever
>> kills a person. It makes our hobby in some way more peaceful. But
>> I always
>> asking my self what would happen if a Meteorite would kill a
>> person? The
>> Hammers and Cow killers are well paid and I know Sylacauga was
>> very very
>> well paid at a meteorite auction this year at the Tucson show.
>> So would the Meteorite be the most expensive L6 ever been sold?
>> Ore would
>> nobody like to own a slice of a human killer hammer? Ok, I'm sure
>> everybody
>> would agree an impact kit is out of respect, but what's about the
>> Meteorite,
>> who would like to own a human killer Hammer?
>>
>> best greetings
>> Andi
>>
>>
>> We are a society that starves our grandchildren to feed our children.
>>
>> All the signs are there to prove that Mother Earth cannot take
>> anymore of
>> the pollution and the destruction we throw at her.
>> We are seeing increasing numbers of Tsunami's, Volcanic eruptions and
>> Earthquakes even here in England we are experiencing this.
>>
>> One really sad thing I see is one day an Asteroid comes and hits
>> us and
>> wipes out half the planet I see unfortunately some humans would
>> try and
>> drag the remnants of it away and attempt to sell it on Ebay
>> because cash
>> is all that is worshipped.
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Look at the positive side of this for our hobby and business...
>>>
>>> With Global Warming (that some doubt) the Arctic will have less ice,
>>> and our grass and farmlands lands will become deserts. Just imagine
>>> all the new meteorites that will become exposed and available to us
>>> collectors.
>>>
>>> And the prices will go down, too.
>>>
>>> But all of these benefits will be far outweighed by the economic
>>> impact
>>> of Global Warming that the Republican "Bushites" doubt. A natural
>>> cycle, some say, but look at the ice in the Arctic that
>>> environmental
>>> scientists are coring. It certainly shows a vastly greater
>>> increase in
>>> carbon dioxide emissions over the last 150 years that corresponds
>>> directly to human activity during our Industrial Revolution. The
>>> greatest increase in 900,000 years. And just think, 600,000
>>> years ago
>>> Yellowstone caldera supervolcano erupted, a brief yet catastrophic
>>> event for the entire earth. It's overall impact was small
>>> compared to
>>> what we are doing now.
>>>
>>> But back to meteorites... The prices will drop as more are
>>> found due
>>> to the melting of Arctic ice, desertfication of our grass and
>>> farmlands... But the question is... Who will buy them once the
>>> economic
>>> crunch of Global Warming hits our pocket books?
>>>
>>> Steve Schoner
>>> IMCA #4470
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Steve, not likely in our lifetimes, the money that
>>> could have been spent going back to the moon, building
>>> a permant base, then going to Mars, all of it could
>>> have been done with the money we have pissed away in
>>> Iraq. But hey, look at it this way, Haliburton moved
>>> to Dubai to be closer to the money, they are taking
>>> good care of it for us, the taxpayers.
>>> Enough of things that do not pertain to meteorites
>>> though, we have all had our say and I will leave this
>>> topic since I have a meteorite show to attend and then
>>> meteorites to dig up in the Arctic.
>>> Michael Farmer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Steve Schoner <schoner at mybluelight.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So true Mike Farmer. That is the problem with our
>>>> age. We want
>>>> everything never taking into consideration what we
>>>> leave those that
>>>> follow us after we are dead and gone.
>>>>
>>>> They will curse us or thank us for what we do now.
>>>>
>>>> But to do nothing about global warming now, which is
>>>> a scientifically
>>>> proven fact, pretty much leaves them with a ruined
>>>> world and a curse
>>>> for us.
>>>>
>>>> (Maybe by then they will have left this planet to
>>>> terraform Mars, and
>>>> mine asteroids (parent bodies of the meteorites we
>>>> love) for their
>>>> resources, all the while looking out into space or
>>>> up into a Martian
>>>> sky at a bright star that was the world we ruined.)
>>>>
>>>> Steve Schoner.
>>>> #4470
>>>>
>>>> [meteorite-list] Global Warming - Scientifically
>>>> proven or a farce
>>>> Michael Farmer meteoriteguy at yahoo.com
>>>> Sun Jun 10 13:25:59 EDT 2007
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Paul, ok, lest say you are the proud winner of that
>>>> bet! Bush got his way, America refused to do it's
>>>> part
>>>> and the oceans only raise 4 feet in the next 10
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> I guess you had better go to Florida/New York
>>>> City/Boston, most of the Gulf Coast, and well, most
>>>> of
>>>> the Island nations in the Pacific. They will be
>>>> gone,
>>>> good job! Oh, and the Billionairs on Long Island and
>>>> Cape Cod had better sell their homes now, since a 4
>>>> foot rise in sealevel will wash them all away. What
>>>> will Dubya do without the family compound in
>>>> Kennebunkport?
>>>> I lived in Key West Florida. The highest point of
>>>> the
>>>> island is 6 feet. Most of the island is less than 3
>>>> feet above sea level, as is a very large part of
>>>> Florida. Kiss it goodbye, and trillions of $$$ of
>>>> land, homes, and a huge part of our nation.
>>>> Does that make it ok to ignore the melting glaciers,
>>>> ok to do what we are doing now and not even bother
>>>> making changes? That is SICK!
>>>> Unfortunately that is the mentality of a huge part
>>>> of
>>>> our nation today, all about me, my money, and today,
>>>> screw tomorrow, and I gues screw our children, and
>>>> grandchildren, they can learn to live in the crappy
>>>> world we created today to get "ours" right?
>>>> My kids (If I ever have any) will likely never see a
>>>> glacier in Switzerland, a Polar bear in northern
>>>> Canada, or a white Greenland. It is all going away.
>>>> sort of makes me not want to have kids, so they will
>>>> not have to suffer for our mistakes.
>>>> Michael Farmer
>>>>
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