[meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone Analogy

From: Peter Marmet <p.marmet_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:45:16 +0200
Message-ID: <0F7D4192-1275-4B66-8C09-C842B3AB4FA0_at_mysunrise.ch>

Hi Dave,

with a few METEOR beers and the blue sky over Ensisheim, a
continuation of the story might be bearable;-)!

See you all soon!

Peter


Dave Schultz wrote:

> Sorry to intrude on your little discussion..., but
> me thinks that this topic should be discussed properly
> over a few beers in Ensisheim, although that might
> lead to more discussions! :)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>> ...sorry, should be DHOFAR 908, not NWA!
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Marmet wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Norbert, Adam, Marcin and All,
>>>
>>> it seems I didn't make myself very clear. I have
>>>
>> absolutely nothing
>>
>>> against the term:
>>> This one is kind of a Rosetta Stone for this and
>>>
>> this...or some
>>
>>> sort of a Missing Link...or some
>>> kind of a Smoking Gun for...but what makes me feel
>>>
>> similar as
>>
>>> Marcin, was the following:
>>>
>>> The finders sold their NWA 908 for years under the
>>>
>> name NWA
>>
>>> 908...suddenly NWA 908 is THE(!) Rosetta Stone
>>> which means THE ONE AND ONLY....
>>>
>>> ...ok, the main reason why I wrote this e-mail
>>> was to get more info about this rather special /
>>>
>> stunning /
>>
>>> fantastic / one of it's kind lithology story!
>>> ... Adam wrote: that displays two (2) lithologies
>>> ...Norbert wrote: displaying three (3) distinct
>>>
>> lithologies
>>
>>>
>>> Very interested to hear more about this unique
>>>
>> meteorite...
>>
>>> not very keen to hear more about what names are
>>>
>> legal / honest /
>>
>>> ethical and
>>> which are not...sorry, if I started this debate!
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Norbert Classen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Marcin,
>>>>
>>>> I didn't use that term for marketing reasons, and
>>>>
>> it is not a
>>
>>>> synonym for
>>>> Dhofar 908 in general but I just used it for the
>>>>
>> 81g main mass of
>>
>>>> Dhofar
>>>> 908, displaying three distinct lithologies
>>>>
>> linking previous finds
>>
>>>> together.
>>>> That's why I called it a Rosetta stone. Back in
>>>>
>> 2003 virtually
>>
>>>> nobody was
>>>> willing to believe that e.g. Dhofar 489, and
>>>>
>> Dhofar 305 did belong
>>
>>>> to one
>>>> and the same (ancient) fall. That's not the same
>>>>
>> thing as calling
>>
>>>> it "Donald
>>>> Duck", it's a linguistic ploy to express
>>>>
>> something of scientific
>>
>>>> meaning...
>>>> Do you think Baker and Bizzaro used their analogy
>>>>
>> as a marketing
>>
>>>> ploy, or
>>>> just because the liked the funny name?
>>>>
>>>> BTW, as to my knowledge neither Adam nor I did
>>>>
>> use the Rosetta
>>
>>>> stone analogy
>>>> without making it very clear that we were talking
>>>>
>> about Dhofar
>>
>>>> 908, not in
>>>> general, but in respect to a certain
>>>>
>> stone/fragment of Dhofar 908,
>>
>>>> and its
>>>> special history/properties.
>>>>
>>>> And, as for the monetary "value" of certain
>>>>
>> specimens: do you
>>
>>>> think that a
>>>> specimen of, let's say normal Zagami will demand
>>>>
>> the same resale
>>
>>>> price as a
>>>> specimen with dual lithologies, including the DML
>>>>
>> (dark mottled
>>
>>>> lithology)
>>>> of Zagami? You are correct, the "meteorite will
>>>>
>> stay the same",
>>
>>>> but I fear
>>>> you won't get the latter one, cheap. And: if you
>>>>
>> know of a source
>>
>>>> who sells
>>>> dual-lith Zagami at the price of normal Zagami,
>>>>
>> just give me a
>>
>>>> call :-)
>>>>
>>>> My 3 lithologies,
>>>> Norbert
>>>>
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com
>>>>
>>>>
>> [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces at meteoritecentral.com]
>> Im Auftrag von
>>
>>>> PolandMET
>>>> Gesendet: Montag, 4. Juni 2007 00:01
>>>> An: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta Stone
>>>>
>> Analogy
>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear list members.
>>>> Every meteorite is special.
>>>>
>>>> For me is better to call meteorite with his
>>>>
>> official name even if
>>
>>>> this is
>>>> ugly NWA 9999999 name, than create some unreal
>>>>
>> "marketing" names
>>
>>>> that have
>>>> nothing to do with meteorites. I see only one
>>>>
>> reason for this,
>>
>>>> better sales
>>>> becouse of better name. If we call it Rosetta
>>>>
>> Stone, Louis
>>
>>>> Michelle or
>>>> Donald Duck or Shrek, meteorite will stay the
>>>>
>> same and not become
>>
>>>> more
>>>> importand or rare.
>>>>
>>>> Thats my two CH3nt's
>>>>
>>>> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----
>>>> http://www.Meteoryt.net
>>>>
>> marcin at meteoryt.net
>>
>>>> http://www.PolandMET.com
>>>>
>> marcin at polandmet.com
>>
>>>> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535
>>>>
>> 195
>>
>>>> --------[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society
>>>>
>> ]--------
>>
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