[meteorite-list] Ensisheim And St Marie Report

From: GREG LINDH <geeg48_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:44:25 -0700
Message-ID: <BAY118-F26AD1707C8C305081AC20EC9070_at_phx.gbl>

       Hi Dean,

    I've purchased several NWAs from you and I find that you give a good
product for a decent price....thank you very much!!!
    I enjoyed the account of your vacation in Europe and your time at, and
description of Ensisheim. Going to Ensisheim was not in my budget this
year....maybe someday. Although from what you and others say, the
meteorite market may dry up and big shows may become a thing of the past. I
hope not, as I am still building my small collection. One good thing is,
even if I never obtained another meteorite, I still have more than I ever
dreamed possible six months ago. At that time I didn't know that meteorites
were available to the general public until I saw a 1.25 lbs., oriented
Sikhote-Alin at the gift shop at Kitt Peak Observatory. I bought it (at a
very good price), had my wife drive back to our home in Prescott Valley, AZ,
as I cradled my first piece of outer space in my hands all the way home. I
now have 18 meteorites. I have yet to find one out in the field, but I
purchased Ruben Garcia's metal detector from him and I am determined to find
my own meteorites.
    Once again, Dean, thanks for your honest dealings with me.

    Regards,
                  Greg Lindh




>From: dean bessey <deanbessey at yahoo.com>
>To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim And St Marie Report
>Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:12:57 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Well, I am a bit late and weeks after the shows and
>probably nobody cares about them anymore but I just
>got back so I will tell everybody my thoughts on the
>shows and my travels in case anybody is still
>interested. I just got home after the vacation. I
>brought my baby with me and my parents came from
>Canada so we all enjoyed the shows together and we
>vacationed in the Rhine between shows and in spain
>afterwards. Had a great vacation and put over 8000km
>on the rental car (Which cost us a fortune in gas - us
>guys from canada and the USA who are spoiled with
>cheap gas goes into shock at the gas pump when we go
>to Europe). For those travelling in France with Babies
>you want to bring them into the station with you as
>the Total and Carrefour gas stations often give you a
>really cool baby pack for free which contains things
>like diapers, toys, biscuts, cd's, games, coupons ect.
>(I drove back from Spain to Amsterdam with just myself
>and my baby who got bored in the back seat by herself
>so we got to met every gas station attendent between
>santiago de Compestela and Amsterdam).
>Anyway, I am boring everybody now so on to the shows.
>A new modern hotel in Ensisheim two minutes from the
>show venue with dozens of rooms now solves the room
>crises for people who go. Free WiFi makes life easy
>(Although they seemed to be using some sort of nanny
>software as it was very hard to log on to yahoo mail -
>I will complain to them about that before I go again.)
>The local kids has drawings relating to meteorites in
>the spiral staircase which has a nice effect but it
>wasnt as numerous or impressive as two years ago.
>Ensisheim keeps getting better. And the wine was stil
>great and they got rid of that godawful meteor beer
>this year. The promoter continues to do a great job
>with a great meal and events to go along with the ever
>increasing importance of the meteorite show itself.
>Its a pleasant getogether even if their were not lots
>of meteorites for sale. However, it has grown to be
>more than an early fun stop on the way to St Marie. In
>fact most of the meteorite dealers who matter
>(Including moroccan ones) were in Ensisheim in
>addition to St Marie and anybody who never went to
>Ensisheim was getting piked over stuff in St Marie as
>it was mostly unsold ensisheim stuff that was being
>offered in St Marie.
>As with the past few years there are fewer and fewer
>meteorites. There wasnt much by way of better
>material. There was a few grams of the current
>shergotite that is floating around morocco for sale
>(Selling well at 300 euros a gram). I am told that
>there is around a kilo found and I expected a lot to
>be offered but there wasnt much (The fact that I was
>walking around with a third of the entire find sort of
>reduced supply somewhat). And occasional overpriced
>achondrite was offered for sale but nothing of any
>large quantity. Mohammad still had his 3 kilo CV3 on
>Hans Kosers table - Who as usual had lots of campos
>and a nice new South American Iron. Common NWA stuff
>was in short supply compared to a few years ago. A
>couple boxes of small size NWA869 was there at 40 Euro
>cents but not much. I continue to believe that the
>desert is drying up as if the shortage of the past
>couple years was due to the borders being tightened
>the locals would have figured out a way to get around
>it by now. If the americans and their billions of
>dollars of hi tech security cant stop millions of
>mexicans from getting across the boarder then a few
>rag tag almost unpaid cops is not going to stop desert
>rocks from crossing boarders. I think the fun is
>getting over in NWA.
>There wasnt much by way of Oman meteorites either and
>Sikhote Alin was also in short supply and what was
>there was mostly scrapnel. Erich Haiderer had some
>really nice small sikhote alins and I found a 17 gram
>inch long one that was half covered in dozens of
>tightly packed flow lines. I left it saturday but
>sunday it was still there so they werent being piked
>over much.
>In the lots of them catagory Moldavites were abundant
>this year. And lots of nice ones. They were slowing
>down a couple years ago and the main sellers were
>saying they were hard to find but new supplies much
>have been found as there were lots. Also in the
>catagory of abundant supply was libyan desert glass. I
>dont really want to say truck loads but bucket fulls
>anyway. In st marie one guy had a 8 foot table with a
>barrier to hold them on piled up a foot or more high
>with the stuff. Libyan desert glass is certainly not
>in short supply thats for sure.
>I was expecting huge quantities of the EL fossil
>meteorite but there was nothing remorely close to what
>I was expecting. You would never know that there was
>at least 3 tons of it from what was available at the
>shows. Maybe savvy buyers have it all bought up. Not
>sure on that one.
>St Marie of course also had its share of fossils and
>minerals and as usual was an extremily easy place to
>buy stuff and make lots of money selling it on ebay.
>Dinosaur teeth was almost not available this year and
>the stone artifacts was much fewer than previous years
>also. Moroccan fossil marble and trilobites (Which
>will never run out) were also available in large
>quantity but there wasnt the mountains of cheap poorly
>prepped stuff like you saw at shows 3 or 4 years ago.
>The trilobites that were there were better preped,
>more expensive and there were very few fake ones
>around. I think this is due to the moroccans trying to
>improve their reputation and put more effort into
>getting long term customers rather than one off's like
>they are used to with tourists. Most fossil dealers
>had at least a few meteorites.
>All in all it was a great show and one of the better
>vacations that I have had. Everything went really
>well.
>I wont bother with many pictures as you have already
>seen them all so here is some that shows my vacation.
>Me and Baby with ensisheim meteorite
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07a.jpg
>Me and baby in the new hotel in ensisheim
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07b.jpg
>Me, baby and harald in a bar in ensisheim
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07c.jpg
>Me and baby in santiago de compestella spain
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07d.jpg
>Baby at Rhine castle
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07e.jpg
>Grandad and baby in one of the wineries near the St
>Marie show
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07f.jpg
>Nan and baby along the Rhine
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07g.jpg
>Me and baby in a castle
>http://www.meteoriteshop.com/temp/ens07h.jpg
>I will miss munich this year (And probably next
>winters Tucson again to but tucson is to far of to
>plan yet) so most likely I wont see many of you in
>person again for a year or two but I will still be
>around and there should be anough meteorites to keep
>going for a couple years yet anyway
>Cheers
>DEAN
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Received on Sun 08 Jul 2007 05:44:25 PM PDT