[meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community

From: JKGwilliam <h3chondrite_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:04:28 -0700
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20070122075812.01c9ce10_at_pop.west.cox.net>

Hello Nick, Moni and All,
This new policy also prevents anyone (except Ebay) from tracking shill
bidders. Years ago, when Ebay had a more open attitude and their clientele
had access to more information, it was pretty easy to catch shill bidders
red-handed. Now, unfortunately, that will be impossible to do with the
names of bidders kept secret. The folks at Ebay won't have to deal with as
many complaints from honest bidders (buyers) because they won't know when a
dishonest seller is jacking up the bid.

Something to think about.

Best to all from snowy Arizona,
John Gwilliam

At 10:02 PM 1/21/2007, Moni Waiblinger-Seabridge wrote:
>Hi Nick and list,
>
>I agree.
>I like to see also who was the highest bidder and who bid.
>There are a couple of meteorites that I have and I could offer a person who
>lost the bid.
>In case of the same classification that is.
>
>If there is a way to write to them let me know too.
>
>With best regards,
>Moni
>
>
> >From: Nicholas Gessler <gessler at ucla.edu>
> >To: Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] eBay no longer a community
> >Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:35:14 -0800
> >
> >Hello All,
> >
> >I was grossly disappointed at eBay's new policy of hiding the
> >identity of all bidders
> >in auctions over $200. Knowing at least a few of the bidders made
> >one feel like he
> >was taking part in a community. "Oh, Fred bought that," or "Sam
> >didn't bid high
> >enough," was part of the fun of knowing who was who - who was
> >building their collection
> >with similar items, who was buying and who was selling. Knowing who
> >was present
> >at the auction made a person feel he was among friends. Entire
> >networks of collectors,
> >list-serves, and even get-togethers evolved because of that comradery.
> >
> >Now eBay has killed that!
> >
> >Imagine going to a live auction where everyone who entered was hooded!
> >I'd like to see Sotheby's or Christie's try that. What a damper that
> >would put on
> >the friendly competition.
> >
> >If anyone has an "in" to the eBay policy makers, please let me know how to
> >make
> >a very loud protest heard!
> >
> >I just called eBay and talked to a junior customer "handler." He was
> >really only
> >interested in giving me "the party line." "Is eBay likely to go
> >back?" I asked.
> >"No, that won't happen," he said.
> >
> >The "official" BS reason is to prevent us from getting fraudulent
> >counterfeit eBay
> >offers. Yes, I get 20 of those a day. Also adverts for Viagra,
> >notices that someone
> >wants to send me $20,000,00, mortgage and lottery offers, etc. That
> >is the price
> >that one pays for a freely networked community.
> >
> >Wait until one of the massive online communities starts putting up
> >auctions, where you
> >can walk into a bourse and see all the meteorites or cryptographic
> >equipment nicely
> >displayed. It is coming, and eBay won't be there...
> >
> >Cheers?
> >Nick
> >gessler at ucla.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
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