[meteorite-list] Peruvian nutjob

From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:09:07 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <214758.40412.qm_at_web56105.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I have been to peru maybe 20 times or more. I love the
place and have a lot of friends there. And as somebody
said yesterday on this list I can attest that the
pisco sour is the worlds best drink (Worth going to
peru just to drink it). Most of the time I go to
arequipa where most of my peruvian friends live (And
near where your crater is located). I used to pay
people to grow black alpacas for me so that I could
get rugs and teddy bears made out of black alpacas
(Black is hard to get and I had to get them bred for
me). I have exported many thousands of alpaca
handicraft items which I sold on ebay and had customs
made for me (When I lived in Canada I used to supply
many alpaca farms in north america with teddy bears
which I could supply cheaper than they could make them
themselves from breeding the alpacas themselves). I
also used to buy large amounts of minerals like
peruvian opal which I bought hundreds of kilos at at
time.
Most of my friends in peru are in the tourist industry
so I have lots of connections. You are right that most
peruvians are honest - but the police are not.
I can also tell the difference between volcanic basalt
and meteorites. Your two links that you showed us
shows a lot of cute maps and pictures of people but
like the martian frass nutcase you dont show any
actual meteorites (or even bomb craters for that
matter).
Unfortunately I stopped going to peru a couple years
ago when I got married so no longer import the
minerals and alpaca products.
So yes, I am very familiar with the workings of
Peruvian customs, police, immigration officials ect
and not just making up stories. I know what I am
talking about here when it comes to peru.
As I said, I know in detail how life works in peru
(And as I said earlier you should be aware yourself
before you go that its not like kansas anymore - look
at a map. Peru is outside the US borders and outside
US laws).
Cheers
DEAN
And as per my earlier email I already had your crater
searched. I beat you to it. There are no meteorites






--- Randall Gregory <randall_gregory at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dean,
>
> How much time have you actually spent in Peru?
> Most of the people in Peru are good and honest
> people. Some police accept bribes. True. This is a
> poor country but many people are not as corrupt as
> you make them out to be. You paint a very dark
> picture of a country filled with good people. Laugh
> on...
>
> I'll provide the links you're missing.
>
>
>
www.geocities.com/astroycpa/meteoritoaqp2feb2004.html
>
>
>
http://www.graphicmail.de/rwcode/default.asp?SiteID=3691&Section=13234
>
> More can be found using the Google search terms-
> "Meteorito Aplao" or "Meteorite Aplao"
>
>
> Randall
>
> dean bessey <deanbessey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> HAHAHAHAHAHA. Good One. This is the best one that
> I
> have herd since the pellisons reported that they see
> terrorists behind every rock and on the other side
> of
> their shot glasses. I was going to respond to this a
> couple days ago but well, its hard to type when you
> cant stop laughing at the stupidy and nievity of the
> posting.
> Do you ever try and study up on something and think
> a
> little before putting mouth in gear? This is all to
> funny. Trying to make people believe that american
> legal standards work in Peru. You have a piece of
> paper with something written on it. Do you know what
> a
> contract is worth in peru? I can assure you its
> worth
> less than in morocco where people dont bother
> getting
> contracts for deals worth hundreds of thousands of
> dollars. The value of your contract is certainly
> worth
> less than the 100 sole banknote that you hand the
> cop
> in charge of enforcing (Or turning a blind eye) the
> protection of your bomb crater.
> Do you know that in peru the police (excluding the
> tourist police), immigration and customs officials
> make mexicos traffic police seem like honest
> respectable law enforcement people (And theres an
> oxymoron for you - "mexican traffic police" and
> "honest" in the same sentence)? In Peru if you want
> to
> buy looted artifacts you go to the police,
> government
> and immigration officials (Better have some good
> connections first before you try that though). Let
> me
> ask yo this? Did you pay the police before you got
> your document? Police in peru wont take a statement
> from you without payment first. In Egypt they call
> it
> "Backish". In Peru they dont try and sugar coat the
> fact. You should know before you search your crater
> that this is not kansas anymore.
> And here is something even funnier than thinking
> peru
> is an american state with enforcable american laws.
> I
> have already beaten you to the crater. About two or
> three years ago when the meteorites were being
> paraded
> through Peru's media (And obviously not meteorites
> even from th epictures) a couple of my friends went
> there looking anyway even though I told them it was
> a
> waste of time (Its easy to get to).
> But peruvian scientists declared the basalt to be
> meteorites. But you have to remember peru is a place
> where scientists and the government are all for the
> destruction of cultural artifacts in the name of
> keeping them out of collectors hands and this
> wholesale destruction has the full support of
> UNESCO.
> For example all around lima the shantytowns are
> built
> over old graveyards and sewage is totally destroying
> the items buried underneath. However, Peruvian law
> is
> such that if you dig a hole in your own backyard and
> salvage the artifacts that will be destroyed
> completely with sewagage in 10 years time you will
> get
> arrested and put in jail.
> Pre columbian graveyards all contain gold by the ton
> but the gold artifacts are all melted down into bars
> (Once melted down pre colombian gold artifacts are
> then legal to export). This with the full support
> and
> knowledge of the peruvian government and UNESCO.
> Make
> no wonder the really smart peruvian government
> scientists declared them meteorites.
> But you know what. The police in Peru are only
> interested in things of value. Since there is
> nothing
> of value (Except old scraptnel which could be sold
> as
> scarap metal I guess) in or around your crater and
> you
> have a legal document to protect it well maybe the
> police will enforce your legal title. You have the
> legalities to protcet your crater all in place.
> I would write more but this is just to funny.
> Sincerely
> DEAN
> PS: For people who want to know what this is the
> crater is an old bomb crater and the meteorites are
> either scraptnel or volcanic basalt - something you
> would think somebody from peru would know - even
> without university training. I had saved some of the
> online news reports of the meteorite crater that was
> in peru's media a couple years ago but unfortunately
> I
> seem to have deleted the links.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Received on Sat 24 Feb 2007 03:09:07 PM PST