[meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warning to hunters that may be considering...

From: Gary K. Foote <gary_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 13:33:45 -0500
Message-ID: <45DEED39.4274.135B02B_at_gary.webbers.com>

Randall,

I'm not suggesting you are a bad guy. I'm suggesting that your approach to keeping
people out of the area is heavy handed and in truth threatening. You won't find many
friends with this type of approach to scientific study, let alone this approach to people
with like interest. You have alienated most of the people with interest in meteorics
with your 'keep out' post to the metlist.

Let me ask you this... why would you post about this crater at all if you wanted to keep
such a tight lid on it? Seems very counterproductive.

Gary

On 23 Feb 2007 at 9:33, Randall Gregory wrote:

>
> Gary,
>
> I'm not a bad guy. I would gladly welcome anyone with a legitmate interest. I would
> introduce them to my friends and take them on an adventure they would never forget into a
> area of breath-taking beauty. After the expediton, we could sit and have a few beers.
>
> The woman in the picture is Nancy Cardnas. She was a direct eyewitness to the meteorite
> fall and provided invaluable information to the direction and most importantly the time
> when she seen the impact and heard the subsequent explosion. Using the speed of soundin
> dry air, I was able to compute the relative distance to the crater. I lived with this
> family for 10 days and her eldest boys accompanioned myself, my wife, and a professor
> from the National University on our expeditons. I was recently asked to be Godfather to
> her eldest son's newborn baby.
>
> The other is a picture of the impact site. The meteorite slammed into the side of this
> mountain.
>
> Randall
>
>
>
>
> "Gary K. Foote" <gary at webbers.com> wrote:
> Randall,
>
> I would invite people to help out - not turn them away with threats of being arrested.
> Heck, I'll do that now. If anyone wants to come along on the New Hampshire meteorite
> hunt please do. We'll post dates and times of when we'll be there so everyone can come
> along!
>
> Come one - come all!
>
> Gary
>
> On 22 Feb 2007 at 20:56, Randall Gregory wrote:
>
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I was told that hunters would turn the place up-side down. You know some people would,
> > without respect for anything. Do I have to remind you?
> > http://www.azstarnet.com/gemshow01/0202.html
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1324361.stm
> > http://www.rockhounds.com/tucsonshow/reports/tucson96/snapsh12.shtm
> > http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3418/is_199708/ai_n8179903
> > http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl
> > http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol277/issue5328/r-samples.dtl
> > http://www.umich.edu/~urecord/9899/Oct21_98/16.htm
> > http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=48724
> > http://www.meteorite.com/missing_stolen.html
> >
> >
> > Gem show briefs
> > Dealer robbed 2nd year in row
> > Five gemstones worth as much as $130,000 were reported stolen from a dealer at a gem
> show
> > at the Best Western Executive Inn, 333 W. Drachman St.
> > Owner Alijohn Nourestani was having breakfast on Sunday within view of his display of
> > tourmaline gemstones when five pieces were stolen, he said yesterday
> > The showcase for his business, Nourestan Gems & Minerals - The Miners of Fine
> Tourmaline,
> > was draped with a sheet when the theft took place, police were told.
> > Nourestani, who has homes in Afghanistan and New Mexico, said yesterday that at the
> same
> > show last year, he had several tourmaline gemstones stolen that were valued at between
> > $8,000 and $10,000. He also had friends who had goods that were stolen, he said.
> > "I've been coming to the gem show in Tucson for 17 years," he said. "I love Tucson. But
> > we'd like the city to know we have problems. There are gangsters in Tucson."
> > Police described the suspect as a 5-foot-7-inch man, about 165 pounds and wearing a
> > flannel shirt and black pants.
> >
> >
> > "Gary K. Foote" wrote:
> > I think so too. A warning like this is sure to gain friends and influence people. lol
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On 22 Feb 2007 at 18:14, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Gary;
> > > I kind of thought that maybe he should live a lonely life as his scare tactic would
> > > warrent that all meteorite persons would stay away from such a crabby appleton!
> > > His crater and the Peruvian government may be his ONLY FRIENDS!
> > > df
> > > Gary K. Foote wrote:
> > >
> > > A rather dark post Randall.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > > On 21 Feb 2007 at 18:44, Randall Gregory wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Information is expected to be released in April on the Earth Impact Databasethat will
> > > give the exact coordinates to the Peruvian meteorite crater. I have been warned that
> > > meteorite hunters will want to turn this site upside down. If anyone wishes to hunt at
> > > this site please contact me and we can discuss.
> > >
> > > Should anyone think about hunting without contacting me. I want you to understand that
> > > I have paperwork filing with the Peruvian government giving me mining concession
> rights
> > > to the crater and 100 sq. hectares surrounding the crater. It is a routine matter and
> > > approval is expected soon. Even with paperwork pending I still have legal rights here
> in
> > > Peru. I am serious about wanting to keep this crater in pristine condition until
> > > scientists have had the opportunity to study it in detail.
> > >
> > > Peruvian law has very strict laws concerning trespassing, especially when it concerns
> > > mines. I will not hesitate to prosecute and trust me, American jails would be
> considered
> > > luxury resorts compared to South American jails. Your sustenance will consist of
> beans,
> > > potatoes, and rice and maybe a piece of chicken if you're lucky.You might get 1 piece
> of
> > > fruit per week. You will have to drink the local water. Diarrhea will be your constant
> > > companion. I guarantee you will have non-stop nightmares all night every night. I know
> > > the system and I will make every attempt to lengthen your stay. There are ways to
> block
> > > your attempts to contact the American embassy.
> > >
> > > There is currently astanding rewardforreporting to the police, any meteorite hunter
> > > that may wander into this area.The reward is equivalent to 6 months income formost of
> > > thepoor people of this area. They arenow watchful and vigilant.The towns of Aplao and
> > > Castillo are small. Everybody knows everybody and I have many friends in each. All
> > > relevant police agencies have been notified by my Peruvian attorney.
> > >
> > > My advice, don't even think about it. Alternatively, if you want to hunt at the
> crater,
> > I
> > > am open to discussion, but only after scientific studies have been completed.
> > >
> > > Randall
> > >
> > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Received on Fri 23 Feb 2007 01:33:45 PM PST