[meteorite-list] information re Drake & other Scale Cubes

From: dean bessey <deanbessey_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <87406.28882.qm_at_web56111.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I just dont see the point of using a cube rather than
a coin for size. If you just want them for size you
can get them at any craft store or Walmart for next to
nothing anyway.
However, I also dont see why you would stop selling
them because they might damage something. A lot of
meteorite collectors and dealers use these strong
magnets anyway and one with a dual purpose of size and
would also make photos look nice sounds like a neat
idea if somebody was going to buy one anyway. Of
course you should go through extremes to warn all your
customers of the strenght of these things (Yes they
will destroy electronic equipment like people claim -
I once totally destroyed a moniter by accidently
lodging one of these magnets on the table next to it
for a second or two). Doing so would possibly help
save you from liability if one ruined somebodys
pacemaker or something. Credit cards dont work well
after coming within 6 inches of them either (Something
else I can personally attest to). I also once shut
down an airport security scanner by putting a block of
them through with my carry on luggage (Made for an
interesting conversation afterwards with people
carrying guns). So the strenght shouldent be
underestimated. But after you learn to use them they
are an invaluable tool to a meteorite collector or
dealer.
You will see on the websites that sell these magnets
very vivid warnings about their strenght and danger
(And sometimes a note that they wont sell the most
powerful ones to first time buyers).
But as long as your buyers are well aware of the
danger I dont see the reason to not sell them.
I find that as a meteorite dealer going through tons
of material I need those strong magnets and many
collectors use them to.
On another note I would like to know what kind of
research that the scientists who contacted michael
blood was doing. This example that michael indicated
shows that a large number of meteorite people use
these magnets so there is no reason to not sell them
if you are filling a market void. Just make sure that
all your sales material warns of the strenght of them.
My thoughts anyway
Cheers
DEAN
www.meteoriteshop.com


--- Joe <kerchner420 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> John,
> That is a very goo point, the last thing I want
> is someone getting their electronics ruined by one
> of my scale cubes. I am going to stop selling them
> as of right now, I should of thought of that before
> advertising them.
> Thanks,
> Joe Kerchner
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: JKGwilliam <h3chondrite at cox.net>
> To: Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>; Drake
> <monel at sprynet.com>; Meteorite List
> <Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:56:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] information re Drake
> & other Scale Cubes
>
> I'm responding to Michael Blood's comments about
> the magnetic cubes offered by one of our list
> members.
>
> I see no practical reason to have a scale cube
> made of magnetic material. Out in the field, it
> would have to be isolated from any electronic
> devices like GPS units, cell phones digital
> cameras and laptop computers. A magnet of this
> size and power can ruin electronic devices
> containing chips and other sensitive components
> quite easily. Back home, in the lab or in the
> studio, the same situation exists. Very often, I
> get my camera really close to a specimen and I
> wouldn't want to put an expensive camera at risk
> by using a scale cube that is also a neodymium
> magnet. Seems like an avoidable accident just
> waiting to happen.
>
> One more thing. How many of you have tried to
> keep a "neo" magnet clean? It is next to
> impossible to get all the little bits of
> attracted material off of one of those buggers
> once they've come in contact with each
> other. When used out in the field, they fill up
> with black sand ( iron and magnetite particles)
> quite quickly. Maybe someone else can tell me
> how to get all of these particles off of a
> magnet, but I've never been too successful at it.
>
> Personally, I use the cubes offered by Rob
> Wesel. I an not a scientific field hunter with a
> need to show compass directions of in situ finds,
> so the plastic ones work fine for me.
>
>
> Best,
>
> John Gwilliam
>
>
> At 12:51 PM 8/26/2007, Michael L Blood wrote:
> >Hi Drake,
> > These are beautiful. I noted with
> interest they
> >Are made of aluminum, which means they are not, as
> >Indicated by another seller, magnets.
> > The list and the other seller may be
> interested
> >To know that some scientific research on meteorites
> is
> >Dependant upon them NOT having ever been exposed
> >To a magnet. I had a researcher contact me last
> week
> >Who was all frothed up about the issue, saying
> everyone
> >Seems to be magnet crazy, which precludes use of
> said
> >Specimens in his research.
> > So, people may (or may not) want to avoid
> magnetic
> >Exposure of their specimens.
> > Personally, as a collector, I have not
> problem with it
> >And as far as I can see it affects one unique
> testing approach
> >And this guy may be the only one doing that type of
> research,
> >Making this issue relatively trivial, particularly
> to
> >Personal collectors.
> > On the other hand, one never knows what
> kind of
> >Research may be discovered in the future which
> could be
> >Of significant importance and involve the need for
> >"magnetic virgin" material.
> > Just a thought, Michael
> >
> >
> >on 8/26/07 3:42 AM, Drake at monel at sprynet.com
> wrote:
> >
> > > I know everyone is sick of posts about scale
> cubes, so this will be my last
> > > ever post on it.
> > >
> > > Here is a link to a picture of the cubes:
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~monel/Cubes.jpg
> > >
> > > The picture contains 3 images:
> > > Two cubes, one view is top, one view is bottom.
> > > A cube showing the cold formed letters.
> > > And a cube next to it's storage container.
> > >
> > > There is a dot next to the "N" indicating the
> bottom of the cube.
> > > The font for the "S" is smaller at the top and
> is bottom heavy to indicate
> > > the correct orientation.
> > >
> > > The cubes are made of 6061T6 aluminum and are
> Type II anodized black. The
> > > letters are filled with baked enamel.
> > >
> > > They are $25.00 each, + $6.50 for priority
> > shipping with tracking. Insurance
> > > is optional. I take cash, checks, MO's and
> PayPal (preferred). PayPal is
> > > sent to this email address.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Drake
> > >
> > >
> > > Drake "Doc" Damer?u
> > > L3CC Member
> > > www.nepra.com
> > > www.rocketmaterials.org
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~monel/
> > >
> > >
> > >
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