[meteorite-list] "Wire Saw"

From: M come Meteorite Meteorites <info_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:43:34 +0200
Message-ID: <46b787f6.1a.239e.677817842_at_webmailh1.aruba.it>

no problem, next time I read a italian word not right I
inform all list


----- Original Message -----
Da : Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
A : Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] "Wire Saw"
Data : Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:36:11 -0700

> Matteo,
> Whether it is a language problem (pretty much
> Impossible in this particular instance) or just another
> Example of your ongoing, "my dad can beat up your
> Dad," the result is the same: the time and interest
> Of readers of the List were wasted.
> Unfortunate.
> Note to all List readers and readers of METEORITE
> TIMES:
> I stand by my statements in the August addition of
> "Meteorite Market Trends" regarding the exceptionally
> High cost of wire saws. My research was based on the
> comments Of multiple well known & honest meteorite dealers
> , reported Prices paid by Bob Haag, Marlin Cills and
> others, people who Have looked into various sources for
> wire saws, and my own research Of companies offering wire
> saws both in the US and Europe.
> Though Matteo claimed my comments were boldershash
> , His basis was a common saw using a medium thin blade
> which 1) produces a massive curf (loss of material where
> the blade removes Material, and, therefore, a massive loss
> of weight when making Ultra thin slices.
> 2) he supplied the entire list with a photo of his "wire
> saw" which Was a common rock saw and referred in his
> "report" to using "blades." (not wires).
> This was all an unfortunate waste of list time and
> interest And I apologies for falling for the bait, as I,
> like so many, would LOVE to have a wire saw if they could
> be had for under $1,000!
> Again, I apologize for any part I played in this
> fiasco and Waste of reader's time.
> Best wishes, Michael
>
> on 8/6/07 3:24 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at
> info at mcomemeteorite.it wrote:
>
> > ah ok this is another question and price....
> >
> > matteo
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Da : "Stefan Ralew" <stefan at meteoriten.com>
> > A : "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> > <info at mcomemeteorite.it> Cc:
> > <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Oggetto : Re:
> > [meteorite-list] wire saw comment Data : Mon, 6 Aug 2007
> > 12:18:11 +0200
> >> Hello Matteo,
> >>
> >> this is not a wire saw. The machine on the photo is a
> >> usual saw with a cutting blade.
> >>
> >> A diamond wire saw could look like these here:
> >>
> http://www.diamondwiretech.com/saws/millennium_slicer.html
> >> It costs probably much more than 400 euros. >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
> >> <info at mcomemeteorite.it> To:
> >> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday,
> August >> 06, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
> wire saw >> comment
> >>
> >>
> >>> probably is the mail, yahoo in this time create many
> >>> problems to ship-receive emails.
> >>> Why contact in private? Is good show to all this info:
> >>> I have buy my wire saw here in Italy, but you find
> whit >>> no problems in USA seen is product in this state.
> The >>> saw is used - I have pay 400 euro paired to
> 500-600$ - >>> but in good conditions. The max diameter is
> possible for >>> me cut is at the 10-12 cm. is possible
> arrive to 20 cm. >>> but I not want take off the meteorite
> from the block, >>> round this, and hope the blade cut in
> the same sign. >>> With a blade of 0.6 mm I cut slices of
> 1 mm thick or >>> under, but normaly I cut of 1 mm thick
> or 2 mm just for >>> not broken the slice.
> >>> The 0.6 mm blade is 20 cm. diameter, but with 0.8 mm I
> >>> have 25 cm. diameter.
> >>> This is the photo of the wire saw
> >>>
> >>> http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/676/taglierinaio9.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Matteo
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> Da : Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
> >>> A : M come Meteorite Meteorites
> <info at mcomemeteorite.it> >>> , Meteorite List
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> >>> Oggetto : Re:
> [meteorite-list] wire saw comment >>> Data : Sun, 05 Aug
> 2007 17:13:08 -0700 >>>
> >>>> Hi Matteo,
> >>>> I have written you twice off list to avoid
> >>>> bothering those not Interested on the list, but got
> no >>>> response, So, I must be on a block in your email.
> >>>> Therefore, I feel the need to bring this up here.
> >>>> Your comment following a portion of this
> >> month's >> METEORITE MARKET TRENDS (METEORITE TIMES,
> >>>> August, 2007) states you have a wire saw that cost
> you >>>> $1,000.
> >>>> Could you please contact me off list with the
> >>>> following information:
> >>>> 1) From where did you get the saw? Do they have a web
> >> site >> URL you Can pas on to me?
> >>>> 2) Was it new or used?
> >>>> 3) How large a diameter stone will it cut?
> >>>> 4) You mentioned it would cut to 1mm - will it cut
> >>>> thinner Than that?
> >>>> 5) How much are the wires?
> >>>> I very much want to avoid passing on
> >>>> miss-information in my articles in METEORITE TIMES.
> So, >> I >> would be very appreciative of your time And
> >> consideration >> in passing on this information since
> >> everyone has been >> consistent in telling me the
> prices I >> cited in the article >> and all the web sites
> of sources I >> have checked also >> confirmed the price
> range I >> mentioned. >> RSVP
> >>>> Thanks again, Michael
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> on 8/4/07 9:26 PM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at
> >>>> info at mcomemeteorite.it wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> one question on Blood section
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) The thickness of a cut piece, particularly the
> >>>>> thinner it is under 2.5mm. While
> >>>>> exceptionally thin slicing is not possible with some
> >>>>> meteorites, most do quite nicely
> >>>>> when thinly cut. How can it be argued that an
> >> historic >> > fall (or any specimen, for
> >>>>> that matter) cut .8mm thick is not worth a good deal
> >>>>> more "per gram" than a slice
> >>>>> of the same material 4mm in thickness. The thinner
> >> cut >> > slice gives both MUCH
> >>>>> more surface relative to weight and, therefore, much
> >>>>> greater "eye appeal" and
> >>>>> costs the seller a good deal more in both "saw loss"
> >> and >> > in the cost of the saw capable
> >>>>> of making such a thin slice. (A SMALL wire saw costs
> >>>>> about $17,000.00, a large
> >>>>> one, big enough to slice Bob Haag's Zagami stone
> >> costs >> > about $60,000.00).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> $17,000 for a wire saw?? I have buy my for $1000 and
> >> I >> > arrive to cut slices of 1 mm or under thick,
> large >> at 10 >> > cm., with blade of 0.6 mm with any
> problems. >>>>>
> >>>>> matteo
> >>>>
> >>>>
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