[meteorite-list] wire saw comment

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:23:57 -0700
Message-ID: <C2DCA73D.DF85%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Matteo,
        Whether it is a language problem (pretty much
Impossible in this particular instance) or just another
Example of your ongoing, "my dad can beat up your
Dad," the result is the same: the time and interest
Of readers of the List were wasted.
        Unfortunate.
        Note to all List readers and readers of METEORITE
TIMES:
        I stand by my statements in the August addition of
"Meteorite Market Trends" regarding the exceptionally
High cost of wire saws. My research was based on the comments
Of multiple well known & honest meteorite dealers, reported
Prices paid by Bob Haag, Marlin Cills and others, people who
Have looked into various sources for wire saws, and my own research
Of companies offering wire saws both in the US and Europe.
        Though Matteo claimed my comments were boldershash,
His basis was a common saw using a medium thin blade which
1) produces a massive curf (loss of material where the blade removes
Material, and, therefore, a massive loss of weight when making
Ultra thin slices.
2) he supplied the entire list with a photo of his "wire saw" which
Was a common rock saw and referred in his "report" to using
"blades." (not wires).
        This was all an unfortunate waste of list time and interest
And I apologies for falling for the bait, as I, like so many, would
LOVE to have a wire saw if they could be had for under $1,000!
        Again, I apologize for any part I played in this fiasco and
Waste of reader's time.
        Best wishes, Michael

on 8/6/07 3:24 AM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at info at mcomemeteorite.it
wrote:

> ah ok this is another question and price....
>
> matteo
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Da : "Stefan Ralew" <stefan at meteoriten.com>
> A : "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <info at mcomemeteorite.it>
> Cc: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] wire saw comment
> Data : Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:18:11 +0200
>
>> Hello Matteo,
>>
>> this is not a wire saw. The machine on the photo is a
>> usual saw with a cutting blade.
>>
>> A diamond wire saw could look like these here:
>> http://www.diamondwiretech.com/saws/millennium_slicer.html
>> It costs probably much more than 400 euros.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stefan
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
>> <info at mcomemeteorite.it> To:
>> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, August
>> 06, 2007 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wire saw
>> comment
>>
>>
>>> probably is the mail, yahoo in this time create many
>>> problems to ship-receive emails.
>>> Why contact in private? Is good show to all this info:
>>> I have buy my wire saw here in Italy, but you find whit
>>> no problems in USA seen is product in this state. The
>>> saw is used - I have pay 400 euro paired to 500-600$ -
>>> but in good conditions. The max diameter is possible for
>>> me cut is at the 10-12 cm. is possible arrive to 20 cm.
>>> but I not want take off the meteorite from the block,
>>> round this, and hope the blade cut in the same sign.
>>> With a blade of 0.6 mm I cut slices of 1 mm thick or
>>> under, but normaly I cut of 1 mm thick or 2 mm just for
>>> not broken the slice.
>>> The 0.6 mm blade is 20 cm. diameter, but with 0.8 mm I
>>> have 25 cm. diameter.
>>> This is the photo of the wire saw
>>>
>>> http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/676/taglierinaio9.jpg
>>>
>>> Matteo
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Da : Michael L Blood <mlblood at cox.net>
>>> A : M come Meteorite Meteorites <info at mcomemeteorite.it>
>>> , Meteorite List <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Oggetto : Re: [meteorite-list] wire saw comment
>>> Data : Sun, 05 Aug 2007 17:13:08 -0700
>>>
>>>> Hi Matteo,
>>>> I have written you twice off list to avoid
>>>> bothering those not Interested on the list, but got no
>>>> response, So, I must be on a block in your email.
>>>> Therefore, I feel the need to bring this up here.
>>>> Your comment following a portion of this
>> month's >> METEORITE MARKET TRENDS (METEORITE TIMES,
>>>> August, 2007) states you have a wire saw that cost you
>>>> $1,000.
>>>> Could you please contact me off list with the
>>>> following information:
>>>> 1) From where did you get the saw? Do they have a web
>> site >> URL you Can pas on to me?
>>>> 2) Was it new or used?
>>>> 3) How large a diameter stone will it cut?
>>>> 4) You mentioned it would cut to 1mm - will it cut
>>>> thinner Than that?
>>>> 5) How much are the wires?
>>>> I very much want to avoid passing on
>>>> miss-information in my articles in METEORITE TIMES. So,
>> I >> would be very appreciative of your time And
>> consideration >> in passing on this information since
>> everyone has been >> consistent in telling me the prices I
>> cited in the article >> and all the web sites of sources I
>> have checked also >> confirmed the price range I
>> mentioned. >> RSVP
>>>> Thanks again, Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> on 8/4/07 9:26 PM, M come Meteorite Meteorites at
>>>> info at mcomemeteorite.it wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> one question on Blood section
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) The thickness of a cut piece, particularly the
>>>>> thinner it is under 2.5mm. While
>>>>> exceptionally thin slicing is not possible with some
>>>>> meteorites, most do quite nicely
>>>>> when thinly cut. How can it be argued that an
>> historic >> > fall (or any specimen, for
>>>>> that matter) cut .8mm thick is not worth a good deal
>>>>> more "per gram" than a slice
>>>>> of the same material 4mm in thickness. The thinner
>> cut >> > slice gives both MUCH
>>>>> more surface relative to weight and, therefore, much
>>>>> greater "eye appeal" and
>>>>> costs the seller a good deal more in both "saw loss"
>> and >> > in the cost of the saw capable
>>>>> of making such a thin slice. (A SMALL wire saw costs
>>>>> about $17,000.00, a large
>>>>> one, big enough to slice Bob Haag's Zagami stone
>> costs >> > about $60,000.00).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> $17,000 for a wire saw?? I have buy my for $1000 and
>> I >> > arrive to cut slices of 1 mm or under thick, large
>> at 10 >> > cm., with blade of 0.6 mm with any problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> matteo
>>>>
>>>>
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