[meteorite-list] Fwd: Giving credit where (official) credit is due

From: wahlperry at aol.com <wahlperry_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:16:52 -0400
Message-ID: <8C94B2CBBD186AD-1CC4-2918_at_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com>

Bob ,

Please stop emailing me. I would appreciate it in the future if you
would share any of your concerns with Met List and not me. If anyone in
this hobby is going to ruin it for the rest of us it will be you. With
the rumored phone calls to the BLM and various Universities snooping
for information I am sure this hobby will suffer.

Sonny





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From: bolidechaser at yahoo.com
To: WAHLPERRY at aol.com
Subject: Re: Giving credit where (official) credit is due
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:56 PM

Hi Sonny,

That's a very good point.

So good, in fact, that when I brought it up with the
NomComm (several years ago) that's when they
instituted having to supply specific data along with a
request for a provisional number. But if you're still
not comfortable with that, then by all means, don't
get provisional numbers for that locality.

But all of this is moot, because there are bigger
issues, at hand, which require looking at the bigger
picture. There appears to be some changes in the
works. I may have to post to the List in order to
address these broader issues.

I don't have any of the details but rumor has it that
somebody who found a bunch of meteorites on public
lands has offended the hardliners at the Smithsonian
by claiming that they all belong to the finder, which
challenges the S.I.s claim of ownership of all finds
on public lands. As a result, the status quo that we
in California have been trying so hard to preserve is
now out the window. The S.I. has up'd the ante. They
have reacted by requesting a separate type specimen be
delivered to the S.I. for any find made on public
lands!

But I don't know how much of this is true, and I don't
want to spread a false rumor.

Bob V.

--- WAHLPERRY at aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 4/11/2007 12:34:22 P.M. Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> bolidechaser at yahoo.com writes:
>
> But that's all I'm asking of
> Sonny; to get the "credit" he deserves by securing
> it
> with provisional names and numbers.
>
> Otherwise, some other person could make another
> find
> from his "study area" unknowingly, and go ahead of
> him
> with getting that area named and 001 number
> approved,
> and worse, get published before Sonny could get
> proper
> credit.
>
> That's only one of many good reasons,
> Bob V.
>
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I appreciate your concern. But lets try this one
> more time! The reason I do
> not wish to get a provisional number or name until
> all of the of the field
> work is complete is for this reason. Because of the
> loop hole you figured out
> many years ago! Not to say you that would do this.
> Example; Lets say a
> meteorite hunter has been working an area for a few
> years with many finds and
> received provisional numbers on all of his finds.
> Another is curious about this
> location. All he would have to do is say he found a
> couple meteorites from that
> location and request provisional numbers. The
> Nomenclature may reply " Ok
> Bob,your provisional numbers will be 35 and 36"! Bob
> never hunted this
> location, has just found out that 34 meteorites
> were recovered from this location.
> What a better resource for gaining information
> regarding a new location.
>
> This is a problem we have to address as a meteorite
> hunting community. I do
> not know the answer. We should come up with an idea
> on how to solve this
> problem. What the current system in place does is
> give confirmation of first
> meteorite found and credit to the finder.
> Unfortunately it can also be a source
> of information to someone digging for data. It is
> not the fault of the
> Nomenclature but a system that is in place. This is
> the reason I choose to wait on
> submitting information.
>
> Sonny
>
>
>
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