[meteorite-list] EBAY not fixed. I just REALLY wanted it!!!

From: Rob McCafferty <rob_mccafferty_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:11:47 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <976112.8186.qm_at_web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Greg

I buy, I don't sell. I'm so hopeless when it comes to
mailing stuff that I'd get murdered on the feedback
for taking weeks to get round to posting the stuff.

Anyway, I'm going to explain it simply as there may be
times when you fall victim to me by what you describe.

Normally, I wait until the auction is about to end and
then try to snipe it (outbid everyone else at the last
minute). This usually works for me because I'm usually
prepared to pay more for something I really want than
others. Sometimes it doesn't.

The reason it may not work is because someone
outsnipes me (not a real word but who cares).

Other times its because of what happened to you.

Living in the UK, I cannot often be up at 3am when the
auctions end so if I really REALLY want something,
I'll put in an outrageous bid which I'm pretty sure
nobody will outbid/snipe.

Fortunately, it doesn't declare this full amount as my
bid. It only places the amount to make me highest
bidder.

Whenever someone tries to outbid me, ebay will
increase my bid up to but not beyond the maxmimum I
was prepared to go.

Often, My max bid on something I "havetohave" may be
2-3times market value of the meteorite I want.
Nobody's going to bid this high and nobody's going to
snipe that high either. So I win.

Best of all, the following morning when I check
expecting to have delicate parts of my body removed by
my wife for spending so much, I find that the price I
have to pay is much lower than I was prepared to go.
I've taken a couple of real gems this way.
244mg of NWA3163 spring to mind as my favourite :)

I'm pretty sure Dave F was not trying to be rude. The
problem with written text is context is often hard to
determine unless you're Shakespeare, Hemmingway,
Tolstoy etc...

Good luck with the bidding in future.

Rob McC

--- GREG LINDH <geeg48 at msn.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I've gotten a number of reasoned answers (though
> not from everyone) and
> to those who offered true help, like yourself, I say
> thanks.
>
> Greg Lindh
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Svensson"
> <daniel_svensson at hotmail.com>
> To: <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is EBAY bidding fixed?
>
>
> > hello,
> >
> > I think I might have an explanation:
> > if there is a secret reserve you can raise your
> bid several times without
> > anyone else bidding
> > until you reach the limit of the secret reserve.
> In this case it will look
> > like someone is bidding with themselfes.
> >
> > Why are people bidding before the last 30 seconds?
> Well this bidding is
> > probably often raising the final price, but I see
> at least some possible
> > reasons:
> > 1. The person cannot bid at end of auction for
> practical reasons
> > 2. They dont want to win, but want to raise the
> final price (for some
> > reason)
> > 3. It is fun!
> >
> > I hope this can be helpfull.
> >
> > /Daniel Svensson
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Darren,
> > >
> > > I appreciate the link that you gave me which
> explains the bidding
> > >system
> > >on EBAY. I'll have to go back and check out EBAY
> more carefully.
> > >Perhaps
> > >I
> > >thought this has occurred and maybe I was wrong.
> I'll go and take a
> > >better
> > >look at it.
> > > Thanks for not "shooting me" and for giving
> a kind and thoughtful
> > >reply.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg Lindh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Darren Garrison" <cynapse at charter.net>
> > >To: "meteorite-list"
> <meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:05 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Is EBAY bidding
> fixed?
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 23:04:05 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My question still has not seemed to be
> answered. My concern is
> > >about
> > > > >someone who bids over and over with no
> apparent competition. They
> > >single
> > > > >handedly raise the price from $10.00 to
> $30.00 to $60.00 to $80.00,
> > > > >etc.....
> > > >
> > > > It is not possible for someone-- with nobody
> else bidding against
> > > > him--
> > >to
> > > > in
> > > > any way change the price from the opening
> price (in a non-reserve
> > > > auction).
> > > > Let's say there is an item with a starting bid
> of 99 cents. Only one
> > > > person
> > > > bids on it. He could modify his bid 1500
> times and the auction price
> > > > isn't
> > > > going to go above 99 cents if nobody is
> bidding against him. And,
> > > > even
> > > > after
> > > > the close of the auction, you'll never see
> what his maximum bid price
> > >was,
> > > > only
> > > > what the auction closed at. What you are
> describing doesn't happen.
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