[meteorite-list] [ebay] ending in about 2 days

From: stan . <laser_maniac_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun Oct 15 01:34:08 2006
Message-ID: <BAY121-F71059045E7EDD2446285EF0080_at_phx.gbl>

Greg

why dont you bother to read the whole gosh darned ebay listing before you
accuse me of self pairing and asking me if i'm a scientist - to avoid making
yourself look like a fool who is just trying to protect his market share
without giving a rat's behind about the collectors.

My ebay ad specifically states that NAU has ALREADY determined this material
to be an angrite - and that the material is (provisional) NWA 2934. All that
Dr. Bunch was waiting on before making this offical is the remainder of the
type specimin deposit since Adam Aaronson's sample (the same source for
Boswell's material and yours as well AFIK) was bellow the 20g requirement.
the remainder of this mass he should have by next week the postal services
willing.

Now i guess you could argue that Dr. Bunch might not know what he is doing
and i shouldnt offer the material till the classification is voted on by the
nomcom - but since Dr. Bunch co-authored the 'case for mercury' paper AND
took part in the classification of nwa 2999 I personally think his word on
the matter is good enough for me. I fully disclosed that the number is
provisional and that the assumption of pairing was based upon information
from my source. I dont see what kind of (legitimate) complaint you might
have.

I have maybe another 5g of this material that is 'extra' to my collection
from opening up the cut face on the stone i bought and removing material to
finialize the type specimin donation. No need to worry about my flooding the
market greg - after that 5g you can go back to selling the stuff for as much
money as you can get.

now why dont YOU do the right thing and apologize to the list for this BS.



>From: "Greg Hupe" <gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com>
>To: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
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>Dear Stan and List Members,
>
>Stan wrote:
>"...an angrite slice paired to nwa 2999/3164 that shows off translucent
>augite..."
>
>Stan, this looks like very bad business ethics in a few ways, especially in
>undermining collector confidence in what YOU sell. Your eBay title reads,
>"new NWA angrite meteorite possible NWA 2999/3164 pairs". This appears to
>be more self-pairing, are you a scientist? What is YOUR NWA number that was
>assigned to this material which actually looks like your ureilite a while
>back you claimed as "pallasite-like" (now that phrase sounds familiar!!).
>
>When I discovered NWA 2999 (the real McCoy!), there were only 12 complete
>stones in which I cut every single one of them and provided material to
>have thin sections made to determine they were all paired, which they were.
>Here is a link to a photo of those twelve OFFICIAL NWA 2999 stones:
>http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa2999/nwa2999a.jpg (notice how they are all flat
>on bottom where I cut a piece off for thin sections).
>
>There were however, a couple additional "potential angrite" stones that
>proved not to be angrite material so you need to have the scientists do
>their job and get an officially assigned NWA number for your material,
>whatever it may be. This needs to be done with all suspected meteorites,
>especially as rare and important as an angrite! In your eBay ad you state
>the material was purchased for you from someone at the Denver Show, most
>likely a Moroccan who made the pairing is my guess and we know what happens
>when you go strictly by their word, or even anyone else such as yourself in
>this case.
>
>Do the right thing, get it analyzed by a lab and have an NWA number
>assigned, the meteorite community deserves this of ALL of this type of
>thing. I see the coat-tailing happening again, not just with you, but with
>other self-made "scientists" who do not do the right thing.
>
>Best regards,
>Greg
>
>====================
>Greg Hupe
>The Hupe Collection
>NaturesVault (eBay)
>gmhupe_at_tampabay.rr.com
>IMCA 3163
>====================
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "stan ." <laser_maniac_at_hotmail.com>
>To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:38 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] [ebay] ending in about 2 days
>
>
>>
>>hello all....
>>i have a handfull of ebay auctions running right now that end in about 2
>>days. closing starting 19:00 PDT on monday the 16th. included in this
>>grouping are some more great seymchans, a micro of nwa 2737 the
>>chassignite, a nice shock veined shergotitte endcut, a new low TKW
>>acapulcoite that is unpaired with the other ACAP material floating around
>>recently, an angrite slice paired to nwa 2999/3164 that shows off
>>translucent augite, an awsome piece of nwa 801 CR2, and a few more than
>>i'm probably not remembering to mention.
>>
>>http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlaserprogramQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0?
>>
>>TIA!
>>
>>
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