[meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known
From: R. N. Hartman <rhartman04_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue May 30 23:34:41 2006 Message-ID: <001801c68451$a0d52b20$6401a8c0_at_ronij3wi4b7cpv> Our experience: You will not remove all the moisture that gets deep into fissures and at the boundaries of the inclusions in an iron meteorite simply by any method if the meteorite is treated at room temperatures. We heat the iron meteorite in an oven to a high temperature in a protecting oil which expands the cracks and allows a protecting oil to replace the moisture. The protecting oil prevents discoloration and damage to the iron which would occur if heated otherwise. It works perfectly. None of my iron meteorites rust. The protecting oil is then swabbed over the surface and allowed to evaporate for a few days, then the remainder is removed and the surface allowed to fully dry, protecting the meteorite from absorbing additional external moisture. Such an oil is ordinary ATF as used in modern automobile transmissions. (And it is cheap!) The method was developed by my son, Jim, and has been partially described in one of my previous articles in METEORITE TIMES (November 2002) in which we described proper preparation of the surface of an iron. The details using the AFT was not discussed there as it is a bit tricky and I am not suggesting that anyone try this as I don't want anyone to burn down their kitchens or blow their heads off, but with careful experimentation someone experienced in lab techniques can achieve much success. Heating carefully as described in the article should give good results. Other techniques have been described by various preparers and some of them seem to be successful as well. But each iron is unique and no method works exactly the same for any two. Ron Hartman ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark ford" <markf_at_ssl.gb.com> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known The way I see it is there are two issues with rusting: 1) water/chlorine oxygen that is in the meteorite when you buy it, Often due to etching in water based etchants or rain damage when it was in the ground - This causes rusting even if you coat it in varnish since it is just using up contaminants inside the matrix. To over come this type of rusting you need to dry the metal very well and maybe even use sodium hydroxide solution to neutralize any acid. 2) External sources of water vapor, chlorine and such: This can be prevented by using appropriate VCI and dessicant or dehumidification and keeping the specimens in a closed cabinet away from draughts and sources of water or contaminats. And this means not using bear fingers when you pick up irons! Some Irons do seem to rust no matter what you do to them, but I have succsfully stabilized 6 kilos of campo and it is as fresh as the day it was cut over a year on. The best stuff I have found is 'Lithium Grease', just spread a smear on iron slices all over on and then wipe off the excess it protects for at least 6 months... Mark Ford -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Bill Mason III Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:21 AM To: 'Steve Schoner'; meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known Dear, I give up rusters. I'm perplexed at the people who have given up! Why can I solve the problem of continued corrosion and you can't? I'm not magic and I can understand the cause of corrosion. Why doesn't anybody start thinking what causes rust? OPEN conversation invited! Bill Mason "rusty" -----Original Message----- From: meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-bounces_at_meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Steve Schoner Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 4:46 PM To: meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: POLL: rustiest most unstable known harlan trammell Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:30:15 -0700 ok, folks what it is? let's see the TOP 10 sweatiest, crappiest, rustiest, hear-it-crackle- as it falls apart in your hands 5 seconds after sawing, skyrox. i'll start with: tsarev, brahin, campo. what have YOU got?! MT. DIEU... PEEEE-UUUUU ! Nearly impossible to cure. 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