[meteorite-list] World's Meteorite Shows

From: Adam Hupe <raremeteorites_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue May 16 17:34:59 2006
Message-ID: <01f801c67930$7e32fe20$6401a8c0_at_c1720188a>

I was not asking to be repaid and you are entitled to your opinions. My
opinion is that deals have to be negotiated, some will win, some will lose.
There are dust makers and then there are dust eaters. It looks like science
won out in regards to NWA 011 with a 99% share making them the dustmaker in
this case. Al invited us in on the deal and then walked away. Serge would
not budge on his price since he had a back up buyer and knew the importance
of the pieces after what happened in Denver. I am done explaining to
somebody who is throwing out personal remarks without first hand knowledge
of a deal. 1mg is better than nothing when there is only a 58mg TAW! This is
sounding like more sour grapes to me so it is time to move on.

Enough Said,

Adam

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Weir" <dgweir_at_earthlink.net>
To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Meteorite Shows


> Adam,
>
> You are not being repaid for the freebies that you sent for my
> website/collection! You asked for nothing in return and I have no money
> to pay you. I don't feel any obligation to anyone for my website,
> compiled over the past 10 years, so if you think there's a quid pro quo,
> or a feeling from me that you are "supporting" it, well I'm sorry to
> tell you that's not the case. I am under no obligation to include
> anything you have given me on my website. I include what I want.
>
> This conversation about NWA 011 is long in coming, and I'm glad to
> finally get it off my shoulders. You are a slick dude no doubt, and
> finding yourself in Serge's room with a chance to grab the NWA 011 that
> he brought for me and Al must have made you sweat. I congratulate you
> for screwing poor hapless Al who has only been in the meteorite trade
> business for 40 fricking years. I'm glad you were there to hold his hand
> and show him how it was done. You did good my boy. You sold 4 mg for
> what you bought the whole lot for. Well done. Let's not tell everyone
> how you screwed those who actually paid your exhorbitant prices. Thank
> God you gave me my milligram for FREE. I'm proud to own it and feel very
> priviledged. By my thinking, I should have been offered the largest 22
> mg piece of NWA 011 for $500... that's what the alternate history
> (without Hupes) would have brought me. But you are the hero and most
> everything in life is more important than this stone.
>
> DavidAdam Hupe wrote:
> > Dear David,
> >
> > They have been informed about the web-site error and it will be taken
care
> > from what I was told. Like everybody already knows, opinions are subject
to
> > change, especially with new isotope data. Dr. Irving would be happy to
> > discuss the new developments with you in regards to NWA 3133 since he
has
> > respect for what you have done with your web-site. Speaking of your
> > web-site, I feel it is very good and we have donated several things to
you
> > for free of charge in support of a this good cause and this is how we
are
> > repaid?
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > . ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Weir" <dgweir_at_earthlink.net>
> > To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> > Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Meteorite Shows
> >
> >
> >> Still, you had no business interfering with Allan's and my deal. You
> >> didn't even know Serge nor what was going down, you merely put your big
> >> arse into something where it didn't belong. History would be different
> >> if you had minded your own business instead of screwing Al and myself
> >> (which you didn't even know you were doing in my case).
> >>
> >> As for changing the subject to the pairing of 1839 and 3133, I told you
> >> before I don't bother busy scientists with crap that you start, but
> >> rather, I read published documents for my information. The information
> >> that you clainm is incorrect is published by Drs. Ted Bunch and James
> >> Wittke on the NAU website and is currently still there. Ask them to
> >> remove it for the sake of accuracy in the field of meteoritics, for
this
> >> is what I will refer to on this issue, and nothing Adam Hupe says will
> >> change that.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> Adam Hupe wrote:
> >>> Dear David,
> >>>
> >>> You do not know what you are talking about. That was when there was
only
> > 58
> >>> milligrams of crumbs on the market with no known pairings. Serge was
> > asking
> >>> $500.00 for the crumbs and Al was ready to walk away. After
convincing
> > Al
> >>> about there desirability was he willing to partner with us on the
> > crumbs.
> >>> Al ended up with a good portion of the crumbs. The price was
established
> > by
> >>> collectors at auction, not by me. If you recall the first piece was
> > entered
> >>> by Al in partnership at a Blood auction with no minimum bid.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, It has been cleared with both Dr. Irving and Dr. Bunch for
> > you
> >>> to contact them in regards to previous statements you made that are in
> >>> error.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "David Weir" <dgweir_at_earthlink.net>
> >>> To: "Adam Hupe" <raremeteorites_at_comcast.net>
> >>> Cc: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:36 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Meteorite Shows
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Adam Hupe wrote:
> >>>> They have been asking outrageous
> >>>>> prices for everything including $95,000.00 for a supposed pairing to
> > NWA
> >>>>> 011/2400 and $300,000.00 for an untested Martian rock.
> >>>> Dear Adam,
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't suppose this price for a NWA 011 pairing might have
anything
> >>>> to do with you, do you? After all, it was you who interfered in a
deal
> >>>> between myself, Al Lang, and Serge Afanisiev that I had researched
for
> >>>> two years prior to Tucson 2003 and arranged for Al to make a deal for
> >>>> the filings that Serge said he had available. This was all long
before
> >>>> you took up your short-lived "partnership" with Al. I'm sure you have
a
> >>>> different take on things, but I will always feel that you turned
around
> >>>> and bought the NWA 011 filings out from under Al, not letting him
> >>>> complete the deal in his intelligent way with his longtime friend.
> >>>>
> >>>> Then you sold the material at auction, and thereafter, for several
> >>>> hundred dollars per MILLIGRAM. Gee, thanks for making sure the price
of
> >>>> this material stays reasonable for us collectors. In my opinion you
> > have
> >>>> no right to complain about the high pricing of this material, and you
> >>>> should be proud of yourself that the paired find NWA 2400 was also
> > being
> >>>> offered at $3000/g by Terry Boswell and his "partner in crime" Ron
> >>>> Farrell. Perhaps this new pairing will also be consistent with the
high
> >>>> prices that YOU initiated. Thanks again. You should have stayed out
of
> >>>> this deal of mine and Al Lang's and most likely we wouldn't be seeing
> >>>> these exorbitant prices for this unique basaltic eucrite-like
> > meteorite.
> >>>> Hey, and thanks for the free milligram of NWA 011 you gave me rather
> >>>> than, say, 4 milligrams... after all, it was MY initiation (with due
> >>>> credit to Norbert Classen who helped in the search for this
material).
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, I'm over it. Have a great day Adam.
> >>>>
> >>>> Love,
> >>>> David
> >>>
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