[meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade? latin translated

From: Kirk Jenks <bandk_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jun 28 20:28:12 2006
Message-ID: <001701c69b12$ddbbd930$297ede42_at_Kirkalan>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Jenks" <bandk_at_chorus.net>
To: "Pete Pete" <rsvp321_at_hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade? latin translated


> Oh man.....I loved that album!!! I listened to it over and over
> again......The Big Bamboo!!!:-)
> Kirk.........
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Pete" <rsvp321_at_hotmail.com>
> To: <bandk_at_chorus.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade? latin translated
>
>
> > Ofeely meboney belly vubiscum,
> > Billy selly allhis dominos
> >
> > ...Sister Mary Elephant (Cheech and Chong)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Kirk Jenks" <bandk_at_chorus.net>
> > To: "Meteorite List" <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade? latin translated
> > Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:08:31 -0500
> >
> > Hi There,
> > Thank you for the translation.....but........Sorry.......I
see
> > little beauty in Latin.
> > Try French.........merci beaucoup!
> > Kirk........
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <info_at_niger-meteorite-recon.de>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:07 AM
> > Subject: AW: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade? latin translated
> >
> >
> > A little more respect for the clear beauty of the Ablativus Absolutus!
And
> > as far as 'dead languages' are concerned: there will be a time when all
> our
> > current languages will be dead ...
> >
> > However, here is a little translation of Dougs quotation from the 1st
book
> > of letters by Q. Horatius Flaccus:
> >
> > Let me continue my advice, if you need advice at all,
> > - think often of what you say, and of whom,
> > and to whom you say it. Avoid a questioner, for he
> > is also a tattler. Open ears will not always keep secrets
> > loyally, and the word once let slip flies beyond
> > recall. Let no girl or boy within your worshipful
> > friend's marble threshold inflame your heart, lest
> > the owner of the pretty boy or dear girl make you
> > happy with a present so trifling or torment you if
> > disobliging. What sort of a person you introduce,
> > consider again and again, lest by and by the
> > other's failings strike you with shame. At times
> > we err and present someone unworthy: therefore, if
> > taken in, forbear to defend him whose own fault
> > drags him down, in order that, if charges assail
> > one you know thoroughly, you may watch over and
> > protect the man who relies on your championship.
> > For when he is nibbled at with Theon's tooth of
> > slander, don't you feel that a little later the
> > peril will pass to yourself?
> >
> > 'Tis your own safety
> > that's at stake, when your neighbour's wall is in
> > flames, and fires neglected are wont to gather
> > strength.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Svend
> >
> > www.niger-meteorite-recon.de
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >So much for the "dead" language.........GEEZ.......I can see why its
now
> > >dead......! Maybe we should get the Pope to translate it!
> > > Kirk..........
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <MexicoDoug_at_aol.com>
> > >To: <mlblood_at_cox.net>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:44 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade?
> > >
> > >
> > >Michael B. wrote:
> > >>> While it appears there may be significant other issues in this
case,
> > >>> it is none of my business - nor anyone else's on the list,
> > >
> > >Michael,
> > >
> > >The central point is that the emotions and incredible sums of money
and
> > >meteorite transaction reputation involved here beg for an orderly
> > >negotiation in
> > >good faith by both parties' initiative - I think all unsolicited
> > commenters
> > >actually agree!! That's where the list could realistically provide
> > >positive
> > >inspiration to both parties.
> > >
> > >It seems to be getting harder and harder to draw the line between the
> > >necessities and the excedents. I agree with you on many points and
am
> > sad
> > >to see
> > >how the positive ideas you integrated in your post are overlooked due
> to
> > >some
> > >of your other revolutionary suggestions which many don't necessarily
> > share
> > >but certainly some appreciate. While our conclusions may be
different,
> I
> > >think
> > >you have a bullseye when you suggest that multiple viewpoints exist
> > without
> > >your commenting on justification or lack of it, and that encouraging
> > dialog
> > >is essential to break this impasse. I get the vibe that you suggest
> that
> > >thirst for victory might be sweet by unchecked public flogging, but
> point
> > >out we
> > >are hopefully less savage in this age and I would add need the
> discipline
> > >to
> > >be respectful of our adversaries under all circumstances if we wish
to
> > >obtain clean equity.
> > >
> > >Since I support your ideas thus discussed, the variations we then have
> > are
> > >only academic. So as not to detract, I got to thinking of these
> verses,
> > >which
> > >perhaps some cultured linguist could help me through. Somehow they
> were
> > >resurrected to life from the ashes falling out of my inbox after
> another
> > >deletathon. I hope you at least agree with it to a point as applied.
> > Damn
> > >Horacio
> > >who said it before - I certainly could not have said it better by any
> > >means:
> > >
> > >Qualem commendes, etiam atque etiam aspice, ne mox
> > >incutiant aliena tibi peccata pudorem.
> > >Fallimur et quondam non dignum tradimus; ergo
> > >quem sua culpa premet, deceptus omitte tueri,
> > >ut penitus notum, si temptent crimina, serues
> > >tuterisque tuo fidentem praesidio; qui
> > >dente Theonino cum circumroditur, ecquid
> > >ad te post paulo uentura pericula sentis?
> > >
> > >?? NAM TUA RES AGITUR, PARIES CUM PROXIMUS ARDET,
> > >ET NEGLECTA SOLENT INCENDIA SUMERE UIRES !!
> > >
> > >Apologies for the plagerized Latin, but I would feel foolish
attempting
> a
> > >translation failing to do justice to these maxims. I thought you
might
> > >appreciate it Michael as I picture Horacio melodically relating this
> > stanza
> > >to both
> > >you and me in an olive garden where both participants boldly picked
> there
> > >own
> > >branches. I beg your pardon if I am mistaken or wrong to try to
> express
> > my
> > >sometimes eccentric thoughts, or if I am too long on the soapbox, or
> > >putting
> > >you to sleep. This time they concern a situation that could destroy
> most
> > >meteorite aficionados' collecting careers and scare many a collector
> into
> > >remission. The wall next door is aflame.
> > >Saludos, Doug
> > >P.S. I am agreeing less and less with these public floggings for the
> > >simple
> > >reason that the resolutions are rarely publicized. A responsible
> > feedback
> > >mechanism should also include what finally happened IMO when dealing
> with
> > >the
> > >reputation of a fellow aficionado.
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Received on Wed 28 Jun 2006 08:27:52 PM PDT