[meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway "meteorite)

From: Sterling K. Webb <sterling_k_webb_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Jul 13 01:22:02 2006
Message-ID: <00f001c6a63c$3ae543b0$79714b44_at_ATARIENGINE>

Hi,

    You're right, of course. That "kilo" just slipped in
there unconciously.

    Back on June 17, Darren Garrison posted this:
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_37571.shtml
> 300 tons of TNT. That's the kinetic energy of the meteoritic fireball
> sighted
> June 7th in Norway, according to Prof. Peter Brown of the University of
> Western
> Ontario. Brown's doctoral student, Wayne Edwards, arrived at this figure
> by
> analyzing infrasound and seismic data. Early reports of a Hiroshima-like
> event
> (12,000+ tons of TNT) were exaggerated.

    That's still a lot of TNT! There is a famous film clip
purportedly of the first "A-Bomb," released by the US
government as such in the late forties, that can be found
multiply on various video sites and used in many TV
programs because it's so dramatic. But it's a fake.
    In 1946-7, we didn't want anybody to see what a
real A-Bomb looked like; who knows what clues it
might contain? So, they piled up about 500 tons of
bomb elements (lots of left-overs in 1946!) and 200
tons of excess napalm and incendiaries and set it off
for five motion picture camera units one night.
    The boom was heard for 40 miles, and the film is
very impressive, actually more impressively evil-looking
than a real A-Bomb. Since the fact that it was a fake
was not revealed for 25 years, there are still many
sources that use it as the BEST film of a nuclear device!
As usual, when a government chooses to deceive,
the last ones to be undeceived are that government's
own population
    So, a 300 Ton TNT detonation is trivial ONLY if
you're nowhere near it!

Sterling K. Webb
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From: "Bjorn Sorheim" <astrogeo_at_online.no>
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite doubts emerge (the Norway "meteorite)


> Hello,
> I think you mean 380 tons TNT,
> not 380 kilotons, right!?
> Hiroshima was about 20 ktons TNT,
> so your figure is approaching almost a
> half Megaton TNT, that's awsome!
>
> Else, I absolutly agree on what is the point of your article,
> I think the first incident spawned the last, yes. That was
> what I reasoned myself, too.
>
> Since the 17th of June (resultless helicopterride) there has been no
> news about the Troms meteor anywhere in Norway. I have been checking.
>
> Also note that according to an article by Ceplecha, there is only
> a 30% chance of large fireballs being chondritic (- or heavier).
> H. H. Nininger by the way, in his autobiography, said that only about 1 in
> 5
> large fireball events brought about the real thing - a meteorite on the
> ground.
> This according to his meteorite searches through his long career.
>
>
> Bj?rn S?rheim,
> in Norway
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hi,
>
> I believe the quick and enthusiastic response
> to this "incident" was potentiated by the earlier
> Norwegian bolide last month. Word of it didn't
> even get reported for several days but interest
> built up after a week. It was unexpected and so
> it took people awhile to "wake up" to the event.
> This kind of report -- the odd rock and the
> strange hole in the garden kind of report -- tends
> to come, singly or in a small flurry, after a real
> event. The seed of the notion is already in place.
> Humans "see" what they are prepared to "see."
> Likewise, they often don't "see" what they
> don't expect to "see." The senses+brain system
> is not a simple "camera-like" mechanism.
> By now, Norwegians were "prepared" to
> think METEORITE.
> Meanwhile, we hear nothing more about the
> very real earlier object or the location of its
> terminal point, witnesses, etc. Its energy has
>
> been determined to have been about 380
> kiloTons of TNT,
>
> but beyond that, nothing,
> which is the usual outcome of a big fireball.
>
> Sterling K. Webb
>
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