AW: [meteorite-list] Prospectors, Scientists Vie for Rocks More Precious Than Gold (Meteorites)

From: Martin Altmann <>
Date: Tue Feb 28 07:07:54 2006
Message-ID: <005f01c63c5f$97a1a270$936cfea9_at_name86d88d87e2>

Hi Ron,

The solution was (and still is) evident.

A single space shuttle start costs 400-500 million $.
With only 1 or 2 percent of that sum, the institutions could have bought
easily all meteorites from Morocco, which appeared during the last 5 years
completely. (+ hiring Da Boyz Stefan, Martin, Andi to be the agents).

If the meteoricists weren't able to point out to the budgetary accounting
institutions, that the scientifical benefit of acquiring all those stones is
much higher or even equivalent to one of the 114 space shuttle missions, but
that it can be achieved at only a hundredth of the costs,
then I think that they are not in the position to run down private persons,
because they possess meteorites or that they purchase meteorites.

I could imagine, that there might be some legal obstacles, which could
afford a cooperation with the Sahara states, which might be politically
undesirable with the hysteria at present,
but that it would be all about the money is implausible.

I'm googling around but can't find anywhere the annual budget of ANSMET ?
Only sporadically some figures. In 2003 the expedition's costs for a 6 week
hunting period of a single person is given with $ 120,000. Hence 6 weeks on
ice of a single team costs 0.7 Mio$.
(for that sum our Dean Bessey would deliver 15 metric tons of chondrites
right to the door, wouldn't you Dean?).

So it's not about the money.


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
[] Im Auftrag von R. N.
Gesendet: Montag, 27. Februar 2006 23:26
An:; Adam Hupe
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Prospectors,Scientists Vie for Rocks More
Precious Than Gold (Meteorites)

<<They wonder how many new finds they'll get access to before the space
> are sliced into collectible fragments and disappear into private
> collectionsThis is something that has always bothered me.>>

That goes for any rare meteorite, or even a nice common one. But if the
museums and researchers can't come up with money to buy them from
collectors, and researchers won't go out and find them themselves (or
finance hunting groups), I don't know whether there is a solution. Maybe
Canada does have the answer!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Hupe" <>
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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Prospectors,Scientists Vie for Rocks More
Precious Than Gold (Meteorites)

> Article quoted the following:
> "."
> I think 20% or 20 grams is pretty generous. Some dealers exceed this
> expectation and others don't. The ones that don't should be forced to
> or lose official status on their stones.
> My Question:
> Isn't this same thing happening with Fukang?, a rare meteorite sliced into
> ever smaller pieces and put on the market. Some were falsely claiming
> as being a new type of ungrouped Pallasite. Donors to the Southwest
> Meteorite Center get a nice little slice of Fukang presented in acrylic if
> they provide enough capitol to the organization. Why isn't Fukang being
> preserved as a main mass for presentation and study?
> Is something wrong with this philosophy or I am missing something here?
> Adam
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