[meteorite-list] good faith trade

From: Jim Strope <nwa482_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:54:17 -0500
Message-ID: <008601c722d5$ebd67f70$0202a8c0_at_DJQVK441>

Hello all...........

I contacted the seller of the sikhote-alin referenced in the following ebay
auction that was posted here earlier on the list.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130033060766

Here is his explaination of why it looks like a CAMPO:

>Hi Jim,
>Thank you.

>Now it is very difficult to get good ones, so rusted ones are also good
>without good crusted ones...

>I remember that sample and say without any doubt -- IT IS A SIKHOTE-ALIN
>INDIVIDUAL. Almost no crust it has. It >was cleaned of rust. The source
>where I got the sample (with many others) is people from Sikhote Alin
>Mountains. 100 %! >Do not worry about this. I know what I'm saying.
>All the best,


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To: "Jim Strope" <nwa482 at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] good faith trade


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> Thaddeus Besedin endophasy at yahoo.com
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> Mike,
> 1. An unusually warm winter in Siberia and European Russia is contributing
> to increases in CO2 due to melting of saturated, organic-rich permafrost
> and surfaces of ancient lakes. Animal migrations and hibernation have been
> affected, as have flowering plants and deciduous trees.
> http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:PKFaVsA80CwJ:www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/11/15/russia.bears.reut/index.html+siberia+weather+2006+winter&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
> 2. Vladivostok is not frozen in October.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/city_guides/results.shtml?tt=TT004640
> 3.Moscow has received little snow this season, and mean temperatures
> exceed freezing.http://www.russia-ic.com/news/show/3078/
> http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:e6SieVZPh9cJ:rss.news.yahoo.com/imgrss/events/wl/012006russiacold+moscow+snow+2006&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10
> 4. A newscast reported that winter sports in SW Russia were impossible in
> natural contexts, so roller blades became substitutes.
> http://rtv.rtrlondon.co.uk/2006-12-14/33569c2e.html
>
> Siberian weather thus is no more inhospitable than Antarctic conditions -
> although I doubt new Sikhote-Alin specimens are surficial.
>
> Here is an uncleaned Sikhote-Alin:
> http://www.gc.maricopa.edu/earthsci/imagearchive/Sikhote%20Alin%20955.jpg
>
> This specimen does appear to have morphological characteristics of
> Sikhote-Alin, although oxidation on Steve's stone does seem to mimic the
> weathered surface of Campo.
> -Thaddeus
> Michael Farmer <meteoriteguy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Steve, why dont you check the frigging weather in
> SIKHOTE-ALIN. That is in a place called SIBERIA, which
> in the last two months, have been under many meters of
> snow no doubt, blizzards and negative temperatures.
> Hardly easy place to get to in the summertime, likely
> a tad more difficult in the deead of winter. _So
> something tells me that there have likely been no
> meteorite hunters at Sikhote-Alin during the last 3 or
> even 4 months.
> Mike Farmer
> --- ??PolandMET?? wrote:
>
>
>> >> Good morning list.It seems I have made in error
>
>> in a
>
>> >> trade I made.I am the one whose picture of the
>
>> >> sikote-alin,that was put out by Jim strope.I made
>
>> a
>
>> >> trade for that sikote-alin,that everyone is
>
>> saying is
>
>> >> a campo.I admit I have never seen a an sikote
>
>> like
>
>> >> this,but all the pitting looked like classic
>
>> sa.But in
>
>> >> a possible trade with mike Johnson,he mentioned
>
>> that
>
>> >> it looked like a campo,but I assured him it was
>
>> from
>
>> >> pieces that were recently found in the last 2
>
>> >> months.This trade was made with IMCA member
>
>> >> #2321,TOMAZ JAKUBOWSKI.He said he bought it from
>
>> >> sergey from new comet shop 2 months ago.So it got
>
>> me
>
>> >> wondering after mike made me wonder about it.So I
>
>> >> emailed him back and he said,undeniably,it is
>
>> from a
>
>> >> new source of sa's found in the last 2
>
>> months.Well I
>
>> >> decided to ask a guy whi is an EXPERT on sa's,jim
>
>> >> strope.He said there is no way that this is an
>
>> sa.So I
>
>> >> asked to send pics around to all on the list to
>
>> get
>
>> >> reaction as to what it is.It is gorgeous
>
>> piece.But if
>
>> >> it is a campo,and not a sikote,I WANT MY
>
>> HOWARDITE
>
>> >> BACK.This now becomes and IMCA issue.I did make
>
>> this
>
>> >> trade in good faith.Please help!!
>
>> >>
>
>>
>
>> Im confused !
>
>> So You must have best shaped Campo ever seen or most
>
>> ugly Sikhote. I cand
>
>> imagine how its possible to mistake Campo with
>
>> Sikhite-Alin ???
>
>>
>
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>
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>
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>> http://www.PolandMET.com marcin at polandmet.com
>
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