[meteorite-list] I had a pretty large problem with an E-baytransaction.

From: Mike / flattoprocks <mikewm_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Fri Sep 30 13:57:26 2005
Message-ID: <026b01c5c5e8$69900d60$20117918_at_mikes>

 Thanks John these are some very good points that we need everyone to hear
about so they don't have to find out the hard way. So far everyone is saying
they want to know who it is and I have not had anyone say that I should not
reveal the details so I am going to do so.
 I had purchased a 5200 gram Muonionalusta from meteoritemarina on Aug 1st.
Item # 6548785278 I used Pay-Pal to pay for the item. They said it shipped
on Aug 5th. I was very patient because their feedback was very good. Today I
learned you must file a claim with E-bay within 60 days and with Pay-pal
within 45 days. This is something that I learned the hard way. I am bringing
this up here so maybe someone else will not have to learn the hard way. I
also feel that they avoided answering some of my questions until the 60 days
had passed. As an example I asked "what happens if I never get the
meteorite?" I never got an answer until now (after the 60 days has passed)
The answer is basically we sent the meteorite and you are out of luck.
 As a seller I have refunded peoples money when they said they did not
receive the package, it happens so rarely that I have only had to refund a
few packages. Only 1 time I did not refund the money and that was only
because every time I asked for some information I felt like I was getting
the run around. The first question I asked was where do you want me to send
the refund to? Then when I got the address I check it against the address I
had sent the meteorite to and they did not match. So from then on I was very
suspicious and ended up not sending the refund.
 I hope this helps someone else with filing their claim on time. Thanks
Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks
Website // www.meteoritefinder.com
Check out the web site it is up and running!
Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arizona Skies Meteorites" <johnbirdsell_at_yahoo.com>
To: "Mike / flattoprocks" <mikewm_at_npgcable.com>;
<meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I had a pretty large problem with an
E-baytransaction.


> Hi Mike and thanks for your post. This should be a
> warning to EVERYONE! We had the same thing happen on
> an expensive ebay purchase. The seller kept saying
> that our order would arrive "soon"...of course it
> never arrived. By the time we had decided to report
> the seller to ebay and paypal, it was too late. Paypal
> likes to pretend that they are the "safest" way to pay
> for items, but you are out of luck if the item never
> arrives or is not as described and you have waited
> longer than the very limited time they allow you to
> report a problem. This is why eveyone that uses paypal
> should ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS choose their credit card
> as a payment source. Paypal does not like it when you
> do this and they try very hard to trick you into using
> an e-check or a transfer from your bank account. Don't
> fall for this. Always use your credit card as the
> funding source! That way you can file a chargeback
> dispute against the seller if you don't receive the
> merchandise as described. Paypal won't tell you that
> you can file a chargeback either as they don't want
> you to know about it. In fact paypal will sometimes
> actively try to dispute your chargeback as they tried
> unsucessfully in our case.
>
> Another VERY IMPORTANT warning regarding paypal is
> that you should always remove ALL of your funds from
> your account BEFORE you pay w/ a credit card.
> Otherwise, paypal will use all of the funds in your
> paypal account and only then after the funds are used,
> charge the remaining balance due to your credit card.
> This is what paypal does even when your specifically
> indicate that you want the purchase to be funded by
> your credit card. We feel that this is a very
> misleading practice on the part of paypal, however if
> you read the fine print of your paypal contract very
> carefully, it states that they can do this.
>
> The final note on this...Fortuntately, on our purchase
> we used our credit card and only lost a small amount
> of funds from our paypal account. We filed a dispute
> w/ our credit card company, paypal tried to claim that
> we had received the merchandise (which we had not),
> and our credit card company credited our account for
> the full amount of the purchase. The seller was
> delisted from ebay (he did the same thing to 10-15
> other buyers), and eventually declared chapter 11
> bankruptcy!
>
> Hope this story along with Mike Miller's serve as a
> warning for everyone.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
> --- Mike / flattoprocks <mikewm_at_npgcable.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone I purchased a $1500 item on E-bay
>> it was an overseas
>> purchase and I waited too long to report it to
>> Pay-Pal or E-bay. I want to
>> let everyone know who the seller is and what
>> happened in case they ever want
>> to deal with this person or have a dispute they need
>> resolved. Right now I
>> am wondering if it is ok to post the persons E-bay
>> name on the list?
>> Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks
>> Website // www.meteoritefinder.com
>> Check out the web site it is up and running!
>> Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401
>>
>>
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