[meteorite-list] Tibetanites

From: Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Tue Sep 27 17:22:04 2005
Message-ID: <BF5F05FD.2284E%mlblood_at_cox.net>

Dear Dirk,
        No problemo. I am sure some western guy will take a photo
of one in the dry lake beds and "document" finding them - some
time.
        I, too, am familiar with Dzi beads and have been amazed at
some of the quality of the fakes. However, the fakes are based on
well established REAL ones. So, while a monk might be faked out
by a non-Tibetanite tektite, his familiarity with tektites that are
found in his home land is based in historic fact.
        It constantly amazes me that westerners refute oral histories
of other cultures. On the other hand, there are several "dealers"
I would NEVER trust, most I would trust a good deal and a few I
would trust completely. These come from one of the later and
his supplier goes back about 25 years - long before the "boom"
in meteorites.
        Of course, it doesn't help that Heaven & Earth (a "New Age"
supplier of minerals with "vibrations") has written of Tibetanites
in the terms they have used - sounding a bit like a snake oil salesman
out of the old west. (The even took a "copyright" out on the
"name" they claimed to have invented! - which I never read or
heard before I used it in my article).
        However, I will have nothing more to say on this subject until
"Documentation" is obtained. What's the point? Think what you
like & say what you like. I don't believe in the tooth ferry, organized
religion or the word of a politician. We all have a right to believe
whatever we like & your beliefs don't "put me off" at all, Dirk. You're
a kule dude in my book - and "the list" ambassador to Japan.
        Best wishes, Michael



on 9/27/05 10:40 AM, drtanuki at drtanuki_at_yahoo.com wrote:

> Michael,Darren,Chris(because your are interested in
> folklore) and List
> Please re-read my post. I said there is absolutely
> NO scientific proof tektites ever fell in Tibet, nor
> archaelogical evidence that they were "used" or
> existed in the past in Tibet. Monks do not know
> everything....I have seen some of them buy and sell
> fake dZi beads in China and Taiwan. I know of
> Taiwanese dealers making dZi beads and fake Tibetan
> Sky Metal amulets for the Nepal and Tibet market. The
> Chinese are very keen to make a buck on any scam
> possible.
> Yes, I have read your article more than once. One
> person`s word (your seller) does not make it
> scientifically sound.
> The "Tibetan" tektites actually showed up in the
> market in Taiwan one or two years prior to showing up
> in Tucson. Mostly the US because of the metaphysical
> boom in magic rocks with "energy".
> At that time, anything real or not from Tibet,
> mostly not, was at a fever-pitch sale in Taipei.
> Well-made fake dZi beads made in India were selling
> for as much as 200,000-500,000US$, Sky Metal amulet
> 500-1000US$, fake Tibetian hand-written Budhist Bibles
> 1000-5000US$...get the pattern? The Tibetan tektites
> never made a splash in Taiwan because there were
> already Thai tektites on the market and frankly no one
> beleived the sellers. Buyer beware.
> I have lived in Asia now for more than 20 years and
> I think I have a little more experience about what
> goes on in the Chinese and Asian markets and among the
> dealers. Also I understand their cultures perhaps
> somewhat more than many Westerners.
> Many Thai and Lao tektites end up in Hong Kong and
> in Guanzhou for sale as coming from China.
> Make your own conclusions. I will not sell anything
> labeled as a "Tibetian" tektite until I or another
> scientist finds one in the field without the help of a
> local with a "salted" field. Science requires Proof
> and NOT Belief, or just someone`s word that just
> happens to be profiting from the sale of them.
> Respectfully, Dirk...Tokyo IMCA#5677
>
> --- Michael L Blood <mlblood_at_cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Dear Dirk,
>> I strongly disagree. I have had Tibetan
>> monks go
>> bonkers over tektites from Tibet, for which they
>> had a Tibetan name. They are CLEARLY indigenous.
>> See my article in May, 1996 METEORITE
>> Magazine:
>>
>> http://www.meteor.co.nz/may96_3.html
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Michael Blood
>>
>>
>>
>> on 9/27/05 9:32 AM, drtanuki at drtanuki_at_yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Darren,
>>> Thank you for sharing this with the list. There
>> is
>>> NO scientifically documented evidence that
>> tektites
>>> have been found in Tibet. I suspect many of them
>> were
>>> transported there recently by Chinese dealers.
>>> Best, Dirk...Tokyo
>>>
>>> --- Darren Garrison <cynapse_at_charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out the second photo in this auction:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6565037549
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