[meteorite-list] Alain Carion has a question

From: Impactika_at_aol.com <Impactika_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Nov 10 22:29:18 2005
Message-ID: <252.c61590.30a56a06_at_aol.com>

Zelimir is having problems posting so he has asked me to forward this.
And he has an interesting suggestion.
 
Anne M. Black
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Hello Anne, list

The iron as pictured is a little bit familiar to me. It reminds me
"Zapaliname".

In October 1996 I attended the Turin show and met there Alain Carion.
We went through the tables and noticed a Spanish dealer, Senor F. Morales,
who had put for sale an unknown iron he discovered in Mexico.
At the time, nothing was known about it, just the name (that he proposed).
The slices he offered resemble the picture you are enclosing (but I must
check better when I will be home with my collection). M. Morales, the finder,
sold various part- and complete slices as well as some individuals.
I purchased a nice part slice of above 500 g with troilites and a W pattern
similar to the one you pictured (Can't check the bandwidths now).
Here is what I can find in my files:

ZAPALINAME (Mexico, Oc-IAB) thick PS, edge 2/3 crusted, 549.3 g
    Nice W. pattern (wide bands), 2 troilites, (one of 40 mm) on the etched
side; purchased from F.A.Morales, the finder, before analysis

M. Morales also provided copies of preliminary analyses and description of
his find to the buyers so I got all this bunch of data from him, in a folder,
including pictures showing M. Morales digging and finding the main mass on
site.
Copies of such data were available before the meteorite was officially
described and accepted by the Nom Com and M. Morales used to distribute them as
proof that he really found the meteorite. It is only recently that Zapaliname
was officially accepted (described in one of the last Met. Bulls.)

I remember that Alain hesitated to purchase some fragment, probably because
of the lack of data. We then separeted and I never knew whether Alain changed
his mind later and ended up by purchasing some slice at the show.

The coincidence here is that the iron you show is similar to Zapaliname and
that Alain and me were at the right place, before the official opening of the
show, to see that new meteorite. Alain should remember whether he did buy
some slice or not and easily contradict my guesses if he still has the piece in
his collection.
But the year (1996, for sure) does not correspond to "the 80's" you
mention....

This is just a proposal, more based on my memories than on comparison of my
sample (that I don't have on hand here in France) with your picture. But this
could perhaps interpellate Alain and help the quest progressing.

Side note:
Anne, since a time, my posts do not reach the List for some obscure reason.
If you are the only one to receive this message and do not see it appearing
again through "Met. Central" list, please send it along to the list on my
behalf. I believe it can be of interest to the meteorite community.

Best wishes to all,

Zelimir

Prof. Zelimir Gabelica
Universit? de Haute Alsace
ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC,
3, Rue A. Werner,
F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France
Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94
Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15
Received on Thu 10 Nov 2005 10:29:10 PM PST