[meteorite-list] what??? OT

From: MarkF <mafer_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Sun May 8 20:55:11 2005
Message-ID: <001801c55431$be713cb0$4108e104_at_MAF>

Interesting concepts here. But, in my linguistics class, I did learn that
languages evolve just as species do. If the written form does not evolve
with it, one ends up with two different, but somewhat compatible languages.
That was one of the arguments for the slangs a few years ago. And they had a
good argument, but it lacked a basic fundamental aspect. The new languages
could not encompass or express deeper thought.
So why should new words like meteoritics come into being, but the modifiers
and all those other non-noun parts of language have to stay the same or the
rules which govern them? I hope its not just so some professors can keep a
job.

Mark F
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Farmer" <meteoritehunter_at_comcast.net>
To: "Devin Schrader" <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net>;
<Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what???


Perhaps someone can school our Commander in Chief since we are now
criticizing English writing. He is the worst offender I have ever seen in
English usage.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devin Schrader" <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net>
To: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what???


> Good Question,
> I'm not sure. I know one can start with And, although it is frowned
> upon, hehe. Or at least thats is what my 7th grade English teacher taught
> me.
> Devin Schrader
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Wesel" <nakhladog_at_comcast.net>
> To: "Devin Schrader" <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net>;
> <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what???
>
>
>> In my writing, I tend to overuse, that is to say, I don't fully
>> understand the usage of, among other forms of punctuation (or articles
>> for that matter), the comma.
>>
>> But clearly Devin, the usage of "and etc." is a gross misuse of the
>> English language, a simple "etc." should suffice.
>>
>> Can a sentence start with "But"?
>>
>> Rob Wesel
>> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
>> ------------------
>> We are the music makers...
>> and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
>> Willy Wonka, 1971
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Devin Schrader" <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net>
>> To: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what???
>>
>>
>>> Jason,
>>> I was simply taken back by you talking about meteorites as only
>>> commercial items, and using the operator 'some' in regards to the amount
>>> of scientific value of meteorites. As if they are only important
>>> because people can make money off of them. Don't get me wrong, I think
>>> meteorite dealers and the business is great (and has done great things
>>> for the scientific community), but to call what we can learn from them
>>> minuscule, is sad and obviously misinformed. It would seem that I am
>>> disagreeing with you. I do not see it as a mere 'some'. But, all are
>>> entitled to their own opinion and mine is only one of many.
>>> And this email probably seems like an unprovoked Sunday attack on a
>>> subject in an email that has nothing to do with the original topic. And
>>> perhaps very uncalled for and misconstrued. True, I admit that. I am
>>> stressed beyond recognition studying for my finals tomorrow and needed
>>> something to do. And oh yeah, go right ahead and insult my English. I
>>> think a chimp could spell, talk and probably write better than I will
>>> ever be able too. So I congratulate you calling me out. But, that's why
>>> I am not an English major. (Or maybe thats why I should have been one??)
>>> So if you want to get into a fight about sentence fragments, run-on
>>> sentences, and using the word ain't; don't waste your time, because you
>>> will undoubtedly win. But all in all, I've procrastinated enough, back
>>> to learning about Thermal Physics and etc.
>>>
>>> Devin Schrader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid_at_gmail.com>
>>> To: <Meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Cc: <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] what???
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Devin, All,
>>> Well, yes, they do have "...some scientific value," don't they?
>>> Are you disagreeing with me? As that statement did not refer to the
>>> main issue that I was discussing at the time, I decided to put less
>>> emphasis on that statement than on the real topic. As it seems that
>>> nearly everyone posting after mine has agreed with my point, on the
>>> pricing and true value of meteorites (in case you happened to miss
>>> that bit), I see no flaw in my letter. If you'd like to talk about the
>>> scientific value of meteorites, go right ahead.
>>> Oh, one more thing.
>>> "Maybe just a poorly worded sentence." isn't a complete sentence. ;n)
>>> And it would be "I have no comment," not, as you said, "I got no
>>> comment."
>>> Regards,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>> On 5/8/05, Devin Schrader <makinsomenoise_at_cox.net> wrote:
>>>> What??
>>>> "...they do have some scientific value..."
>>>>
>>>> Yeah you're right, meteorites are fairly scientifically insignificant,
>>>> we
>>>> can't really learn anything from them. No seriously, are you kidding??
>>>> Only
>>>> some scientific value?? Wow. Maybe just a poorly worded sentence. But
>>>> if
>>>> that is what you think about meteorites, wow. Beyond that, I got no
>>>> comment.
>>>> Devin Schrader
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jason Utas" <meteoritekid_at_gmail.com>
>>>> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 1:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] DaG 400 for $500/gr. .... where?
>>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Seems to me that using website prices isn't too good of an idea.
>>>> After all, meteorites are only worth what people are willing to pay
>>>> for them -- they have no practical value or set price. In fact,
>>>> they're really just collectors' items now (they do have some
>>>> scientific value but I know for a fact that most of you collectors and
>>>> dealers aren't in it for the science). Website prices merely reflect
>>>> the opinions of a few select individuals trying to make a profit -- if
>>>> you really take website prices seriously we should all be paying $1.50
>>>> - $6 per gram for Sikhote Alin. I've never paid that in my six years
>>>> collecting...and hope never never to for a Sikhote... Ebay is the one
>>>> true place left where the buyers set the price, therefor, it should
>>>> give a good estimate of the current market value of meteorites. If
>>>> people are only willing to pay $500 per gram for that stone (on ebay),
>>>> guess what -- it's probably worth only that.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/05, Bob Evans <bobe5531_at_comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > Matteo,
>>>> >
>>>> > Please use the phrase " ebay is where meteorites sell low ".........
>>>> > Its
>>>> > alot better than " prices go in ruin ".
>>>> > When you write it, its kind of like nails on a chalkboard.
>>>> >
>>>> > Write it down and keep it for future reference
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks
>>>> > Bob
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it>
>>>> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 2:57 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] DaG 400 for $500/gr. .... where?
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hello
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I not look ebay, ebay its only a site where the prices
>>>> > > go in ruin...I look only the meteorite dealers.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Matteo
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --- Rob Wesel <nakhladog_at_comcast.net> ha scritto:
>>>> > >> Here is the reference Matteo, $468 per gram
>>>> > >>
>>>> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6528962545
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Rob Wesel
>>>> > >> http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
>>>> > >> ------------------
>>>> > >> We are the music makers...
>>>> > >> and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
>>>> > >> Willy Wonka, 1971
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > >> From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites"
>>>> > >> <mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it>
>>>> > >> To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
>>>> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 10:13 AM
>>>> > >> Subject: [meteorite-list] DaG 400 for $500/gr. ....
>>>> > >> where?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > According to a character here inside, DaG 400 its
>>>> > >> sold
>>>> > >> > now for $500/gr. Please inform me where find this,
>>>> > >> I
>>>> > >> > want buy a 10 gr. slice......For the moment i have
>>>> > >> > seen this:
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > Vassiliev/Moritz $1500/gr.
>>>> > >> > Twelker $1000/gr.
>>>> > >> > Fernlea $25,000/gr.
>>>> > >> > Lang $3469/gr.
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > etc.....I not see any person sale for $500/gr.,
>>>> > >> > probably this person it has drunk the brain
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > Matteo
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
>>>> > >> > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA,
>>>> > >> ITALY
>>>> > >> > Email: mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it
>>>> > >> > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
>>>> > >> > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
>>>> > >> > International Meteorite Collectors Association
>>>> > >> #2140
>>>> > >> > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >>
>>>> > > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
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>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
>>>> > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
>>>> > > Email: mcomemeteorite2004_at_yahoo.it
>>>> > > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
>>>> > > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
>>>> > > International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
>>>> > > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
>>>> > > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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