[meteorite-list] AD - BENGUERIR, SHIROKOVSKY and black crusted NWA

From: JKGwilliam <h3chondrite_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Thu Mar 31 09:25:15 2005
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20050331072111.02c02cd0_at_pop.west.cox.net>

Matteo,
I suppose it is a possibility that you were sold a piece of Bensour that
was mislabeled as Benguerir. Or, it is possible that someone intentionally
deceived you. Let the scientists do their work and it will be determined
whether or not these two meteorites are related.

John Gwilliam

At 04:47 AM 3/31/2005, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote:
>for me its the same material, I have put the 2 pieces
>near and its the same material.....same matrix, same
>metal grains, same crust
>
>Matteo
>
>--- Philippe Thomas <thomasmeteorites_at_wanadoo.fr>
>wrote:
> > Hello Matteo, Marcin and listies,
> > There is no reason to be suspicious about this
> > meteorite : this is a
> > real witnessed fall.
> > I was on the strewnfiled few days after the fall and
> > I've recovered
> > some witnesses reports and have took some photos and
> > some GPS
> > coordinates of the impact points.
> > This meteorite has been analysed and declared by a
> > moroccan scientist,
> > Mrs Chennaoui Aoudjehane, who has got a lot of
> > documentation : pictures
> > of impact holes, witnesses report.... It will be
> > normally published in
> > the next Meteoritical Bulletin.
> > This meteorite is a LL6 as Bensour for example but
> > the visual aspect
> > (fusion crust, matrix, pools of metal...) between
> > Bensour and Benguerir
> > is absolutly different, as it is different from
> > Kilabo, another LL6
> > fall.
> > A study will be done by the scientists to see if it
> > exists or not a
> > link between these recent falls.
> > To do a comparison as Marcin, Benguerir looks as
> > Bensour as Amgala
> > looks as Zag... : same classification but no
> > possible confusion.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Philippe Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I have just buy a piece of the " new " benguerir
> > fall
> > > in the Bologna Show from a moroccan person many
> > many
> > > undecided, strangly with many pieces of Bensour in
> > the
> > > tables....same matrix, same crust, same
> > metal...100%
> > > the same material....and for me and others its the
> > > same material pass for another fall....moroccan
> > > persons quite they are known to make it pass every
> > > meteorite like something of special, for no speack
> > of
> > > the fake fossils or meteorites this persons sale
> > to no
> > > expert persons
> > >
> > > Matteo
> > >
> > >
> > >> Matteo did You ever see a Bensour or Benguerir ?
> > If
> > >> this is the same then
> > >> Taza comes from Sikhote Alin
> > >>
> > >> Stop saying shit about this meteorite. Its new
> > fall.
> > >> Its not possible to
> > >> find "old" meteorite on desert with THAT
> > condition
> > >> and quality. My specimen
> > >> comes from fragment that lay on ground not more
> > than
> > >> few hours.
> > >> Matteo, change Your translator, becouse it
> > propably
> > >> make wrong translations
> > >> of Your words.
> > >>
> > >> And at least, for me this could be fall or not,
> > not
> > >> importand. Maybe Habibi
> > >> make it in his hotel kitchen, but this is soo
> > >> beautifull meteorite and for
> > >> this I love it.
> > >>
> > >> If noone will be not interested in this specimen,
> > I
> > >> will cut it to
> > >> beautifull slices.
> > >> That what I will do.
> > >> Marcin the butcher.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-----[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-----
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> > 195
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> > >> ]--------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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