[meteorite-list] AD, OT Desert eucrite collection.

From: joseph_town_at_att.net <joseph_town_at_meteoritecentral.com>
Date: Wed Jun 15 18:36:22 2005
Message-ID: <061520052236.3034.42B0AD5F0004877800000BDA21587667550299019BA1089F0A9C0106_at_att.net>

One Google says:

 "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" is attributed to Sigmund Freud. But there is no evidence that he actually said it. It means that sometimes a cigar is what it is and not a phallic symbol -- an elongated object representing a penis. "This line is beloved by showboat psychology professors who imitate Groucho Marx while telling students that Freud said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." From “Nice Guys Finish Seventh: False Phrases, Spurious Sayings, and Familiar Misquotations” by Ralph Keyes (HarperPerennial, 1993).

: : : : (They probably imitate Groucho because he was another cigar smoker. The cigar story associated with him is that a woman explained her many children by saying, "I love my husband." And Groucho responded, "I love my cigar but I take it out once in a while." But I don't think Groucho actually said that.)

: : : : So, sometimes a wedding card is just a card. And not representative of something else.

: : : Victor Herbert, or his librettist, said (in one of Herbert's operettas), "A woman is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke." (I'm just the messenger.) SS

: : So, did Victor Herbert get "A woman is just a woman, but a good cigar is a smoke." from Kipling or did Kipling get it from Herbert?

: Monica Lewinsky would have said 'do you want the before cigar or the after cigar?'

Bill




 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Tom Knudson" <peregrineflier_at_npgcable.com>
> Hello Walter and list, Walter wrote;
>
> "Actually, Freud was quite fond of saying, "sometimes a cigar is just a
> cigar."
>
> I thought that Bill Clinton said that! Or was Bill just fond of cigars, I
> forget.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Walter Branch" <branchw_at_bellsouth.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Desert eucrite collection.
>
>
> > >Martin wondered, "Hmmm. I wonder what Freud would >say?"
> >
> > Actually, Freud was quite fond of saying, "sometimes a cigar is just a
> > cigar."
> >
> > -Walter Branch
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MARK BOSTICK" <thebigcollector_at_msn.com>
> > To: <meteorite-list_at_meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Desert eucrite collection.
> >
> >
> > > Hello Martin, Dave and list,
> > >
> > > Dave Schultz wrote:
> > >
> > > "... maim masses..."
> > >
> > > Martin wondered, "Hmmm. I wonder what Freud would say?"
> > >
> > > I think Freud would blame it on his mother. I always tend to lean
> towards
> > > Wasson. Wasson would blame the general collecting community I think.
> > >
> > > Clear Skies,
> > > Mark Bostick
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